1
00:00:03,260 --> 00:00:01,309
for everything that appeared in the

2
00:00:05,630 --> 00:00:03,270
Rendlesham forest incident that doesn't

3
00:00:09,140 --> 00:00:05,640
involve aliens at all it was completely

4
00:00:11,990 --> 00:00:09,150
silent it comes right over our head it's

5
00:00:13,759 --> 00:00:12,000
so a classic flying-saucer really

6
00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:13,769
standing in the clearing he turned over

7
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:15,360
to my father and held his hand and he

8
00:00:23,330 --> 00:00:16,650
looked in his eyes and said we're not

9
00:00:26,029 --> 00:00:23,340
alone welcome to podcast UFO for our

10
00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:26,039
live show during the show feel free to

11
00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:28,050
participate live in our chat room and

12
00:00:34,130 --> 00:00:30,570
don't forget to Like us on our very

13
00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:34,140
active Facebook page hello and welcome

14
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:35,850
to the show I'm Martin will usher host

15
00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:38,610
and we are actually live in studio in

16
00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:40,800
Exeter New Hampshire this is a holiday

17
00:00:46,729 --> 00:00:44,399
show and I'm joined by Mack Maloney and

18
00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:46,739
I'm gonna actually let him do his a

19
00:00:51,229 --> 00:00:48,809
little intro that he does on his shows

20
00:00:53,060 --> 00:00:51,239
and we also have one one and we have a

21
00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:53,070
bunch of things going on today we have

22
00:00:58,670 --> 00:00:55,710
we actually have somewhere off in the

23
00:01:01,849 --> 00:00:58,680
shadows here a black-eyed child or

24
00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:01,859
person that may talk a little bit I'm

25
00:01:06,140 --> 00:01:03,510
pretty scared about this whole thing

26
00:01:08,179 --> 00:01:06,150
then we're gonna be taking a couple of

27
00:01:09,740 --> 00:01:08,189
calls there's some regulars on Mac show

28
00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:09,750
that are going to be joining us a little

29
00:01:18,039 --> 00:01:12,180
bit here and there and I will sit wave

30
00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,049
height everyone so on on YouTube anyway

31
00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:20,640
at some point we're gonna be giving away

32
00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:24,090
five books and I'm gonna let Mac talk

33
00:01:30,380 --> 00:01:25,920
about that and I'm gonna turn it over to

34
00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:30,390
the one and only Mac Malone well it's

35
00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:31,590
good thing there's only one good it

36
00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:34,290
Thank You Juan good evening everyone and

37
00:01:38,090 --> 00:01:35,820
welcome to Mac Moniz military x-files

38
00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,100
show simulcast with Martin Willis's

39
00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:41,040
podcast UFO right that's the night right

40
00:01:45,889 --> 00:01:43,860
I'm Mac Maloney very famous Juan Juan is

41
00:01:48,050 --> 00:01:45,899
he a girl everybody you can see him for

42
00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:48,060
once may only be for once you never know

43
00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:50,520
what smite is launching

44
00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:52,740
good to see you back thank you one hard

45
00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:54,270
to be working with Martin again that's

46
00:01:57,709 --> 00:01:55,500
right yeah it's always a pleasure

47
00:02:00,350 --> 00:01:57,719
every Evans behind the camera and the

48
00:02:01,639 --> 00:02:00,360
camera the people the people who won't

49
00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:01,649
give a shout out towards the end of the

50
00:02:04,639 --> 00:02:03,000
show okay because there's a lot of

51
00:02:07,399 --> 00:02:04,649
people behind the camera toy as it turns

52
00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,409
out we're gonna be talking to cut into

53
00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:09,599
Cobra later on and also switchblade

54
00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:12,090
Steve is calling in we also have a very

55
00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:13,380
special guest in the

56
00:02:16,580 --> 00:02:14,580
and this is something that we really

57
00:02:19,070 --> 00:02:16,590
shouldn't show on TV you know because

58
00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:19,080
it's probably against um FCC ruling yeah

59
00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:21,030
black eyed kid is here he's a kid how

60
00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:24,540
you doing hey everybody happy holidays

61
00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:26,040
have you ever signed the release to be

62
00:02:32,990 --> 00:02:30,480
on camera ixnay I really say he's gonna

63
00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:33,000
be chiming in also Wow miles will

64
00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:35,010
introduce our engineer matters yeah

65
00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:36,930
clink and in the shot Matt is here don't

66
00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:37,470
trip

67
00:02:47,570 --> 00:02:45,590
tonight okay and do I have everyone near

68
00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:47,580
one one I think so yeah anything you

69
00:02:51,050 --> 00:02:50,430
have to say what's new we deal I love

70
00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:51,060
the Hat

71
00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:53,400
thank you I'm an all the way I'm a

72
00:02:56,870 --> 00:02:54,510
stylist

73
00:02:58,910 --> 00:02:56,880
all the way over from Ireland this is no

74
00:03:02,540 --> 00:02:58,920
Chinese knockoff well this thing is

75
00:03:05,690 --> 00:03:02,550
awesome I giving it my sound effects so

76
00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:05,700
my sound effects yeah okay I promised I

77
00:03:09,140 --> 00:03:07,380
promised everyone that we would actually

78
00:03:11,510 --> 00:03:09,150
talk a little bit about UFOs the show

79
00:03:13,370 --> 00:03:11,520
what are you trying to say well the last

80
00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,380
time we did this in studio I'm not sure

81
00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:15,360
we did talk about UFOs I think so sure

82
00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:18,930
we did well paranormal stuff it was yeah

83
00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:20,400
that's right you had a ghost in here

84
00:03:26,870 --> 00:03:26,160
word yeah has anyone actually had any

85
00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:26,880
encounter

86
00:03:31,310 --> 00:03:29,490
Bob the ghost yeah every week everything

87
00:03:35,060 --> 00:03:31,320
crazy goes on yeah Wow

88
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:35,070
we're not kidding Wow especially one was

89
00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:37,170
first one asaram but we've been sitting

90
00:03:40,370 --> 00:03:38,730
here and we will complain about the

91
00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:40,380
lights and I was and the lights came on

92
00:03:44,060 --> 00:03:42,570
right yeah this blinking light that came

93
00:03:45,980 --> 00:03:44,070
on and then as soon as we said some Bob

94
00:03:48,170 --> 00:03:45,990
Bob goes to went off like within 10

95
00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:48,180
seconds oh wow I will tell also the

96
00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:51,840
people on YouTube and I'm not able to

97
00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:54,570
get the chat room up and kgr a radio

98
00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:56,730
about over in YouTube we will take your

99
00:04:02,750 --> 00:03:59,760
chat questions tonight as well and we'll

100
00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:02,760
be taking calls but when we will

101
00:04:06,470 --> 00:04:04,620
certainly announce what they're gonna

102
00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:06,480
give away those five books Mac talk

103
00:04:11,930 --> 00:04:09,030
about your book that's out what do you

104
00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:11,940
want me to say the title title is out

105
00:04:16,039 --> 00:04:14,880
Mac Maloney's haunted universe and we're

106
00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:16,049
gonna at some point we're gonna do a

107
00:04:21,380 --> 00:04:18,540
show on the creation of it because it

108
00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:21,390
started off is you know discussion at

109
00:04:25,230 --> 00:04:23,280
the bar if I remember correctly you know

110
00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:25,240
we just put together all this left

111
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:27,130
information I had notes under napkin

112
00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:28,810
right yeah that kind of thing you know

113
00:04:33,809 --> 00:04:32,110
and I was gonna self publish it because

114
00:04:35,129 --> 00:04:33,819
you know I've I've had other books

115
00:04:36,689 --> 00:04:35,139
published you know published by

116
00:04:38,219 --> 00:04:36,699
publishers and I just want to see what

117
00:04:39,150 --> 00:04:38,229
the self publishing thing is these days

118
00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:39,160
a lot of people make money

119
00:04:44,850 --> 00:04:40,990
self-publishing that's right so yeah and

120
00:04:47,059 --> 00:04:44,860
then I put it together and then just do

121
00:04:49,379 --> 00:04:47,069
kind of the technicalities of things my

122
00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:49,389
publisher found out about it and he says

123
00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:51,880
you know you have to let us have the

124
00:04:56,249 --> 00:04:54,580
first refusal of it oh and then so

125
00:04:58,020 --> 00:04:56,259
that's what that's how it get published

126
00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:58,030
by a real publisher not you know Mac

127
00:05:01,409 --> 00:04:58,720
publisher

128
00:05:03,779 --> 00:05:01,419
Wow so you skipped the hundred million

129
00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:03,789
dollar lawsuit and all that yeah yeah

130
00:05:07,710 --> 00:05:05,500
yeah probably but it's doing good has

131
00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:07,720
been on the end the biggest surprises

132
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:09,819
it's been on the Amazon bestseller list

133
00:05:14,999 --> 00:05:11,770
for two months in the top ten of UFO

134
00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:15,009
books Wow and right and I did see about

135
00:05:20,909 --> 00:05:19,120
UFOs in particular the top ten places to

136
00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:20,919
see a UFO how did you come up with that

137
00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:22,960
and I might want to argue some of those

138
00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:24,849
points yeah me too I used to work for

139
00:05:31,709 --> 00:05:27,550
Turner Broadcasting for their website

140
00:05:33,779 --> 00:05:31,719
conspiratorial and I used to just write

141
00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:33,789
like photo captions they come up with

142
00:05:38,850 --> 00:05:37,090
like the 10 haunted most haunted houses

143
00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:38,860
in the country and that kind of stuff

144
00:05:42,930 --> 00:05:40,330
you know and I'd write the captions on

145
00:05:44,490 --> 00:05:42,940
them and I had all that research in my

146
00:05:45,810 --> 00:05:44,500
office you know some of the stuff we

147
00:05:47,610 --> 00:05:45,820
just wouldn't used we'd only use 10 a

148
00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:47,620
month and I'd come up with like 20 a

149
00:05:52,020 --> 00:05:49,770
month so while this stuff I never use

150
00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:52,030
you know I just kind of put it in the

151
00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:54,340
book and that's how I had all this

152
00:05:57,779 --> 00:05:56,199
research on these weird little stories

153
00:05:59,610 --> 00:05:57,789
accumulating in my office and that's

154
00:06:01,680 --> 00:05:59,620
what the book is it's just like 300

155
00:06:03,689 --> 00:06:01,690
weird little stories Wow Wow

156
00:06:05,370 --> 00:06:03,699
I liked it I like a book that has like

157
00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:05,380
little stores it's easier for me to get

158
00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:07,690
through it with my bedroom a DeeDee yeah

159
00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:09,250
well I'm not real slow Rita but it's

160
00:06:12,719 --> 00:06:10,960
like it's great to read on the subway

161
00:06:14,219 --> 00:06:12,729
and yes you know it's like that you

162
00:06:16,379 --> 00:06:14,229
don't no one can read it from beginning

163
00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:16,389
to end even I can't but so so you write

164
00:06:18,990 --> 00:06:17,770
books but you're a slow reader I think

165
00:06:20,370 --> 00:06:19,000
that's interesting you're not the first

166
00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:20,380
person that's told me that by the way

167
00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:22,330
yeah real small my attention I don't

168
00:06:26,850 --> 00:06:24,610
have the attention span and so on but

169
00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:26,860
the attention span did too right which

170
00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:30,490
is pretty amazing yeah you know there's

171
00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:32,050
nothing else to do sometimes but I was

172
00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:33,460
gonna say this is like a remember

173
00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:34,990
Ripley's believe in a night out in the

174
00:06:37,050 --> 00:06:35,620
paperbacks

175
00:06:38,129 --> 00:06:37,060
yeah those I used to just go right

176
00:06:38,730 --> 00:06:38,139
through and that's what it's like you

177
00:06:41,159 --> 00:06:38,740
know they're just like

178
00:06:43,499 --> 00:06:41,169
stories yeah yeah I did like the shorter

179
00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:43,509
books and all that so we're actually

180
00:06:47,219 --> 00:06:45,580
gonna be talking about commander Cobra

181
00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:47,229
who was here last time okay didn't make

182
00:06:50,370 --> 00:06:49,780
it so he's on a secret mission yeah

183
00:06:51,719 --> 00:06:50,380
that's right

184
00:06:55,020 --> 00:06:51,729
I mean he's literally on a secret

185
00:06:58,110 --> 00:06:55,030
mission I know he is yeah so we are at

186
00:06:59,700 --> 00:06:58,120
some point gonna get him on and I'd like

187
00:07:01,860 --> 00:06:59,710
to I have a question I wanted to ask him

188
00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:01,870
to talk about and he he won't he won't

189
00:07:05,249 --> 00:07:03,280
even know what it's about well I'm sure

190
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:05,259
he'll expound on it no Madeline no

191
00:07:11,309 --> 00:07:08,289
matter what so I asked the you two guys

192
00:07:14,999 --> 00:07:11,319
have you would check out that his video

193
00:07:17,010 --> 00:07:15,009
and of valois Elizondo it was George

194
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:17,020
Knapp interviewed I looked at it and I

195
00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:20,650
didn't know who he was actually did yeah

196
00:07:25,020 --> 00:07:23,770
and I just wanted your what what did you

197
00:07:28,379 --> 00:07:25,030
think about some of the things you said

198
00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:28,389
about possibly 2019 there may be some

199
00:07:34,110 --> 00:07:32,110
really interesting things coming out I'm

200
00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:34,120
gonna lose you some some more

201
00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:37,000
subscribers as it turns out okay um I

202
00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:38,560
didn't believe what he was saying you

203
00:07:43,170 --> 00:07:40,690
know I mean I mean I'm not saying that

204
00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:43,180
he was lying but I just have to say yeah

205
00:07:46,890 --> 00:07:44,770
I worked in the PR business for ten

206
00:07:50,370 --> 00:07:46,900
years for General Electric and and also

207
00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:50,380
in a private peon for him yeah I know

208
00:07:53,730 --> 00:07:51,969
how to spin things I know spin when I

209
00:07:55,230 --> 00:07:53,740
hear it and I know when people are you

210
00:07:56,909 --> 00:07:55,240
know talking and they're not really

211
00:07:59,339 --> 00:07:56,919
saying saying and that's how I felt

212
00:08:01,170 --> 00:07:59,349
about him if you're gonna go on TV and

213
00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:01,180
Drudge nap I know him I don't know him

214
00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:03,070
but I've been on his show I've talked to

215
00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:05,289
him I know he's really into it you know

216
00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:07,810
he is someone who if we if wasn't for

217
00:08:14,339 --> 00:08:09,190
him we probably might have never heard

218
00:08:16,379 --> 00:08:14,349
of area 51 you know but you know if

219
00:08:17,939 --> 00:08:16,389
you're gonna go on TV you can't just say

220
00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:17,949
well you know what's coming and you know

221
00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:19,509
and this thing we have some tangibles

222
00:08:24,809 --> 00:08:22,090
and yeah lots of stuff why you want TV

223
00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:24,819
you don't tell us if not don't be on TV

224
00:08:31,140 --> 00:08:28,210
well I think he was we around him I

225
00:08:33,540 --> 00:08:31,150
think that you know George called him in

226
00:08:35,130 --> 00:08:33,550
to say you know what is coming up you

227
00:08:36,779 --> 00:08:35,140
know because and it's the reason and and

228
00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:36,789
looat himself has actually talked about

229
00:08:40,319 --> 00:08:38,649
this and I got to meet him he's a he's a

230
00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:40,329
real nice guy he looks like a good guy

231
00:08:46,079 --> 00:08:42,610
and he knows his stuff but all I'm just

232
00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:46,089
saying is that if you have something to

233
00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:47,920
say say it yeah you know if you know

234
00:08:51,540 --> 00:08:49,510
something we don't know but here's that

235
00:08:52,050 --> 00:08:51,550
here's a saying it but it may be not

236
00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:52,060
authorized

237
00:08:57,420 --> 00:08:54,190
it's not goodbye that's what eyes my

238
00:08:58,650 --> 00:08:57,430
home well he is actually there are

239
00:09:00,510 --> 00:08:58,660
certain things that he can talk about

240
00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:00,520
but he has to get an okay to talk about

241
00:09:04,019 --> 00:09:02,260
it from home who does he have to get the

242
00:09:05,850 --> 00:09:04,029
inside where he was basically working

243
00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:05,860
before it's through the Pentagon still I

244
00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:07,450
don't believe that you don't believe

245
00:09:11,610 --> 00:09:10,060
that because the believe that he severed

246
00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:11,620
all his ties and it has nothing to do

247
00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:13,630
with him then why is he waiting for the

248
00:09:19,769 --> 00:09:17,620
authorization he he is saying he has

249
00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:19,779
gotten permission to release the things

250
00:09:25,410 --> 00:09:22,320
that has been released so far and

251
00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:25,420
there's more to come but it he wants to

252
00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:27,490
make sure things are very thorough this

253
00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:29,470
is that was his point he wants he

254
00:09:33,329 --> 00:09:31,120
doesn't want in he realizes that people

255
00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:33,339
are being impatient okay and that's why

256
00:09:38,940 --> 00:09:35,110
he was addressing it like I kiddie you

257
00:09:41,370 --> 00:09:38,950
on my side in this yes boom the people

258
00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:41,380
behind me people all I can say is that

259
00:09:45,060 --> 00:09:42,940
there are people we have them on our

260
00:09:47,010 --> 00:09:45,070
show okay and like I said I don't want

261
00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:47,020
to be the bucket of ice water here

262
00:09:51,570 --> 00:09:49,120
alright but the people who can't say

263
00:09:53,130 --> 00:09:51,580
anything don't say anything there's none

264
00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:53,140
of this partial authorization or

265
00:09:57,420 --> 00:09:54,880
anything and I'm talking about agent

266
00:09:59,310 --> 00:09:57,430
Xers on our show and even Cobra Cobra

267
00:10:00,690 --> 00:09:59,320
knows stuff that he cannot tell us if

268
00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:00,700
it's classified I don't care if you

269
00:10:10,170 --> 00:10:02,260
belong to the government or not you

270
00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:10,180
might have been knock on the door stay

271
00:10:13,650 --> 00:10:11,680
off a TV look what happened today Green

272
00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:13,660
Beret the guy now they're gonna you know

273
00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:15,430
boost on murder charges

274
00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:17,770
he killed the Taliban bomber anyone on

275
00:10:21,150 --> 00:10:19,270
Fox and he talked about it and that's

276
00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:21,160
when they started investing in him don't

277
00:10:27,150 --> 00:10:24,310
go on TV if once again we're on TV right

278
00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:27,160
now the body of a major solid credit

279
00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:28,270
building right we have a big

280
00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:30,880
announcement coming just right um he

281
00:10:34,829 --> 00:10:33,040
shouldn't well that big that big

282
00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:34,839
announcement coming I don't know if you

283
00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:39,100
remember this but last in 2017 early

284
00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:42,250
2017 Tom DeLonge kept saying you know we

285
00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:43,510
have a big announcement coming and

286
00:10:46,590 --> 00:10:45,250
everybody was like beside themselves

287
00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:46,600
they didn't want to hear that I so I

288
00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:48,490
understand what you're saying what was

289
00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:49,959
the big announcement well it ended up

290
00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,000
being what actually was released and

291
00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:53,920
actually did come out the ticked on you

292
00:10:58,829 --> 00:10:56,350
are the times to tick-tack UFO video and

293
00:11:00,390 --> 00:10:58,839
the whole yeah that's great I watched

294
00:11:02,850 --> 00:11:00,400
that and I said man this is really

295
00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:02,860
something not of this earth you know I

296
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:04,630
don't yeah this is not a secret weapon

297
00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:06,010
well they all in fact

298
00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:07,330
the gimbal is when you're actually

299
00:11:10,890 --> 00:11:09,220
talking about I believe what they call a

300
00:11:13,650 --> 00:11:10,900
gimbal and I'll pull that up for the

301
00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:13,660
f-18 one I'll pull that up for people in

302
00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:16,480
the in the well I thought it would but

303
00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:17,980
I'm not getting the source but that just

304
00:11:21,330 --> 00:11:19,330
wouldn't be that wasn't something that

305
00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:21,340
you could look at and say yeah this is

306
00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:22,480
something that was made at the

307
00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:24,970
skunkworks or something it just it just

308
00:11:51,380 --> 00:11:26,650
looked out of this world

309
00:11:54,570 --> 00:11:51,390
yeah oh I think I got it here really I

310
00:11:57,270 --> 00:11:54,580
got a lot of out of what he said and

311
00:11:59,220 --> 00:11:57,280
that is and I want to talk to you about

312
00:12:03,630 --> 00:11:59,230
this Mac because you kind of you did

313
00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:03,640
wartime and UFOs in water he the

314
00:12:06,690 --> 00:12:04,750
statement he made I don't know if you

315
00:12:09,690 --> 00:12:06,700
caught this but he said there's a high

316
00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:09,700
volume of sightings when it has to do

317
00:12:13,290 --> 00:12:12,430
with military operations and I believe

318
00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:13,300
that's true uh-huh

319
00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:16,870
I do too yeah and and why why well we

320
00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:19,120
think it happen it's the the and that's

321
00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:21,010
like kind of the premise of UFOs in one

322
00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:23,200
time is that it just seemed like more

323
00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:25,930
people see UFOs on things in the sky

324
00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:28,060
during wartime so you think well why

325
00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:30,970
okay there are people flying around at

326
00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:32,530
this so they're literally more people in

327
00:12:35,790 --> 00:12:34,570
the ground looking up into the air there

328
00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:35,800
are more people in the air looking

329
00:12:39,450 --> 00:12:37,000
around you know and they're seeing

330
00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:39,460
strange things and I say this on a show

331
00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:41,920
all the time the best witnesses we have

332
00:12:47,310 --> 00:12:44,710
for UFOs are pilots yeah military pilots

333
00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:47,320
and airline pilots okay they see

334
00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:50,560
everything and they know when it's Venus

335
00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:53,350
they know when it's cloud inversion and

336
00:12:57,510 --> 00:12:55,210
they know when it's something that they

337
00:13:00,510 --> 00:12:57,520
can't explain okay those are the guys

338
00:13:02,430 --> 00:13:00,520
you kind of have to you know rely on in

339
00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:02,440
a lot and the problem is is that the

340
00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:04,240
military doesn't let them talk and you

341
00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:05,950
never hear them talking have you other

342
00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:08,320
than this f-18 pilot which was amazing

343
00:13:13,890 --> 00:13:09,760
because he put himself out to the press

344
00:13:16,130 --> 00:13:13,900
sure we could get my show bit yeah I

345
00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:16,140
know you the Navy Hampshire right yeah

346
00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:18,640
you did there's no I haven't can't

347
00:13:21,310 --> 00:13:19,130
remember

348
00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:21,320
any other fighter pilots coming out and

349
00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:23,270
saying I saw this our airline pilots

350
00:13:26,380 --> 00:13:25,190
they're always very reticent about what

351
00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:26,390
they saw because it affects their

352
00:13:31,150 --> 00:13:28,490
careers I've had about three or four

353
00:13:32,850 --> 00:13:31,160
military people called during my show

354
00:13:35,530 --> 00:13:32,860
and tell me that they had a military

355
00:13:37,570 --> 00:13:35,540
sighting uh-huh so I think a lot of

356
00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:37,580
people see have military settings and

357
00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:39,920
they're told by their higher-ups you

358
00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:42,260
know you lose your pension you don't

359
00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:43,670
talk about this a member of my family

360
00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:46,490
had a UFO saying in 1971 and that's what

361
00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:47,690
they were told they were put into these

362
00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:50,000
three guys saw a UFO while they were

363
00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:51,380
fixing a plane at 2:00 a.m. in the

364
00:13:56,050 --> 00:13:53,990
morning a child in aerospace they

365
00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:56,060
reported it this person told me is the

366
00:14:00,430 --> 00:13:59,210
worst thing they ever did and they were

367
00:14:01,630 --> 00:14:00,440
questioned for three days they weren't

368
00:14:03,220 --> 00:14:01,640
beaten up or anything there were

369
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:03,230
questions same questions over and over

370
00:14:06,910 --> 00:14:05,210
and finally they signed the release

371
00:14:08,590 --> 00:14:06,920
saying we saw a re-entry vehicle in from

372
00:14:10,660 --> 00:14:08,600
Cape Canaveral and if you knew this

373
00:14:12,250 --> 00:14:10,670
person in the million years they they

374
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:12,260
wouldn't even want to talk to you about

375
00:14:17,230 --> 00:14:15,170
your policy says but I saw something

376
00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:17,240
that was his experience that experience

377
00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:19,490
is probably times a million in the

378
00:14:22,180 --> 00:14:20,690
military so they will take that

379
00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:22,190
experience to their death

380
00:14:29,170 --> 00:14:25,760
he wouldn't Wow you wouldn't you know

381
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:29,180
something do you think so do you think

382
00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:31,130
that for every military sighting would

383
00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:33,920
you guess that they say something like

384
00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:37,280
that you can't talk about this I think

385
00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:39,710
that if if you report it to your higher

386
00:14:43,540 --> 00:14:41,990
authority they're gonna tell you you

387
00:14:46,420 --> 00:14:43,550
can't talk about this now a lot of them

388
00:14:47,770 --> 00:14:46,430
are military exercises themselves so a

389
00:14:50,260 --> 00:14:47,780
lot of times they're saying that so you

390
00:14:51,940 --> 00:14:50,270
won't spill the beans on the new stealth

391
00:14:54,070 --> 00:14:51,950
fighter or something okay there's always

392
00:14:55,930 --> 00:14:54,080
that don't talk about things from a lot

393
00:14:57,340 --> 00:14:55,940
of space they don't want you to talk

394
00:14:58,930 --> 00:14:57,350
about it because military people are in

395
00:15:00,940 --> 00:14:58,940
a position sometimes to see stuff

396
00:15:02,470 --> 00:15:00,950
certainly if you work at it Nellis Air

397
00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:02,480
Force Base in Las Vegas or someplace

398
00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:04,370
you're gonna see stuff that they're

399
00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:06,380
gonna have to say you you can't tell

400
00:15:10,060 --> 00:15:07,970
anyone about this you know you know and

401
00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:10,070
most most officers have a security

402
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:12,470
clearance all pilots have a security

403
00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:14,810
clearance in regular military people

404
00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:16,160
have a security clearance

405
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:18,710
you had one yep I did while I was in

406
00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:22,130
anti-sub and in Cobra certainly y'all

407
00:15:29,079 --> 00:15:26,900
had one in has one so yeah so I want to

408
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:29,089
talk about I don't know if any of you

409
00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:31,970
have watched her you must have heard

410
00:15:36,889 --> 00:15:32,970
about the Bob Lazar

411
00:15:39,650 --> 00:15:36,899
they do sure beat Jeremy Korbel has put

412
00:15:44,929 --> 00:15:39,660
out there did you no no okay so I

413
00:15:48,829 --> 00:15:44,939
actually watch that and I've rented and

414
00:15:51,499 --> 00:15:48,839
watched it and I may lose a lot of

415
00:15:55,699 --> 00:15:51,509
listeners by saying this there's there's

416
00:15:59,119 --> 00:15:55,709
something I'm just not I just can't

417
00:16:01,040 --> 00:15:59,129
quite by mom I just can't and I want to

418
00:16:02,449 --> 00:16:01,050
say one thing - and this is maybe a

419
00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:02,459
little bit of a spoiler alert for

420
00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:03,990
someone that hasn't seen the movie and I

421
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:05,730
apologize for that but movie is it

422
00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:09,930
it's called Lazar in let's see I'd have

423
00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:11,430
to Google right now what was a

424
00:16:18,980 --> 00:16:14,610
whistleblower from area 5000 basically

425
00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:18,990
and he put with Drudge nap so what area

426
00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:20,610
51 on the map right in the early

427
00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:22,649
eighties yeah so there are it's very

428
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:24,060
curious that there are some things that

429
00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:27,810
he knew that that no one else knew at

430
00:16:33,170 --> 00:16:29,610
the time also there are some people that

431
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:33,180
say they remember him and he was also in

432
00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:36,930
Los Alamos mm-hmm but I Renji Hobbs the

433
00:16:42,019 --> 00:16:38,870
thing that always comes to question is

434
00:16:44,329 --> 00:16:42,029
his his education you know he says he

435
00:16:46,670 --> 00:16:44,339
went to Caltech then he went to MIT

436
00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:46,680
right and as I was saying the spoiler

437
00:16:55,549 --> 00:16:50,959
alert is that they interview his mom and

438
00:16:57,319 --> 00:16:55,559
he he's never been able to show any

439
00:17:00,799 --> 00:16:57,329
evidence evidence that he went to MIT

440
00:17:02,749 --> 00:17:00,809
but no one asked his mom what did you

441
00:17:04,699 --> 00:17:02,759
think of your son going to MIT what does

442
00:17:06,579 --> 00:17:04,709
she say I said no one asked her that oh

443
00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:06,589
that's the first question I would ask

444
00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:08,699
before there's a reason that they didn't

445
00:17:11,569 --> 00:17:10,020
ask her then maybe they knew the answer

446
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:11,579
but do you know what he does now or at

447
00:17:18,649 --> 00:17:14,730
least when I was in him in the second

448
00:17:25,100 --> 00:17:18,659
book I didn't call beyond area 51 okay

449
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:25,110
and okay this is live TV yep

450
00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:26,850
I'm sorry I just heard the volume is too

451
00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:28,260
low we're gonna try to crank it this

452
00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:32,130
came in on the I apologize for that

453
00:17:39,260 --> 00:17:36,390
we will work on that now just our

454
00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:39,270
overall volume it's not good okay yeah

455
00:17:44,539 --> 00:17:41,070
we need to pipe it up a little bit pipe

456
00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:44,549
up the volume and I apologize to thank

457
00:17:49,130 --> 00:17:46,860
you the person in YouTube

458
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:49,140
Hypnose for letting us know about the

459
00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:51,450
volume does that mean they didn't hear

460
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:52,710
that my book is on the bestseller list

461
00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:55,440
not yeah and in here here's the thing

462
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:00,960
and and renee up says this always in the

463
00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:03,210
chat thank you for being there

464
00:18:10,909 --> 00:18:08,100
renee but also george knapp totally

465
00:18:15,019 --> 00:18:10,919
believes in him iris I highly respect

466
00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:15,029
George Knapp right Jesus Oh in in

467
00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:19,110
nineteen and OH 2015 at least I know up

468
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:20,700
and to that point you know what bob was

469
00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:24,330
always doing for a living do I know what

470
00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:25,289
he was doing for a living

471
00:18:31,789 --> 00:18:28,380
he was renting out a military pots

472
00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:31,799
company and selling pots to the Pentagon

473
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:33,809
all right out of his I have an office

474
00:18:39,649 --> 00:18:36,720
okay he had a Pentagon contract now this

475
00:18:42,860 --> 00:18:39,659
is a guy who said that in area 51 they

476
00:18:45,289 --> 00:18:42,870
in a place nearby called is it s2 or s 4

477
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:45,299
s 4 s 4 yep that there was a mountain

478
00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:48,890
nearby that had pieces of UFOs that had

479
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:54,990
reconstructed UFOs yeah and and and he

480
00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:56,970
made all these wild claims okay at a

481
00:19:01,310 --> 00:18:59,490
place called Papoose Mountain now when I

482
00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:01,320
was like mostly yep

483
00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:04,710
and what somewhere I read along the way

484
00:19:10,340 --> 00:19:06,600
that this whole idea and we put this in

485
00:19:13,549 --> 00:19:10,350
the book is that the people at area 51

486
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:13,559
they test secret airplanes things that

487
00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:15,600
we nine out of 10 of them we will never

488
00:19:19,490 --> 00:19:17,460
see but they have to put him out on the

489
00:19:21,649 --> 00:19:19,500
runway and the Russian satellites

490
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:21,659
Chinese cell as we grew over and they

491
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:23,130
knew when they were coming over so they

492
00:19:26,659 --> 00:19:24,480
would test it and then they would have

493
00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:26,669
to schlep the plane back into the hangar

494
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:28,799
we cut the satellite to go over yeah and

495
00:19:33,529 --> 00:19:30,450
then pull it out again and it was like a

496
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:33,539
two-hour thing they had to do so they

497
00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:35,010
said if we could only get the Russian

498
00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:37,080
satellites not to go over so frequently

499
00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:39,960
it would help us so Bob was I went out

500
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:42,230
and he did this story about how the real

501
00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:44,850
hot stuff was happening at boost Lake

502
00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:47,370
which is like 100 miles or 70 miles to

503
00:19:51,289 --> 00:19:49,470
the south of them and the Russians

504
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:51,299
redirected their satellites there two

505
00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:52,770
days a week and it gave the guys the

506
00:19:57,409 --> 00:19:55,080
area 51 a break so you saying is that

507
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,419
disinformation yes absolutely

508
00:20:01,340 --> 00:19:59,520
Wow what's he doing now if he

509
00:20:03,740 --> 00:20:01,350
a real whistleblower yeah he actually

510
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:03,750
worked there there's no way he would get

511
00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:05,970
a defense contract he would have to pass

512
00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:09,780
a security test that's another thing he

513
00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:11,700
says all the time that he does these

514
00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:15,030
interviews for insurance and what do you

515
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:17,400
think of that I mean give me so no one

516
00:20:20,990 --> 00:20:19,050
likes anthem I guess yeah

517
00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:21,000
yeah sounds great you know and it just

518
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:22,230
adds to the story but I've also been

519
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:23,970
told that when he was doing story and

520
00:20:27,890 --> 00:20:25,290
when he was doing interviews back then

521
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:27,900
there were two like mysterious lawyers

522
00:20:30,770 --> 00:20:29,310
with him that would literally sit on the

523
00:20:33,290 --> 00:20:30,780
couch on either side of him and tell him

524
00:20:34,850 --> 00:20:33,300
what to say all right now if I was about

525
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:34,860
a life yeah I mean yeah if you sitting

526
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:36,690
something like this up someone say any

527
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:38,490
of it puts two lawyers in there to make

528
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:41,520
it really look alright so I'm just gonna

529
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:43,650
ask up on the chat room if anyone wants

530
00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:45,330
to chime in what their thoughts are on

531
00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:47,910
on Bob Lazar if anyone actually watched

532
00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:50,100
the movie I did watch the movie there

533
00:20:53,180 --> 00:20:51,150
were a couple things that were

534
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:53,190
convincing but I felt like a I have to

535
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:55,290
say I felt like I was being forced to be

536
00:21:00,380 --> 00:20:58,320
convinced of these things and that's is

537
00:21:02,420 --> 00:21:00,390
a movie he did or somebody it was a

538
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:02,430
documentary done about him and they left

539
00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:03,810
they had a lot of past clips you know

540
00:21:08,270 --> 00:21:05,880
back from 1989 when he first came out

541
00:21:10,850 --> 00:21:08,280
with everything and when he first posed

542
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:10,860
as Dennis anonymously in a front of an

543
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,930
SUV and taped stuff like that right and

544
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:14,400
then there's some controversy he was

545
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:15,930
supposed to go to Japan and someone in

546
00:21:18,830 --> 00:21:17,250
Japan was gonna pay him a lot of money

547
00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:18,840
to do a lot of hey you know interviews

548
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:21,060
over there cuz UFOs are very popular

549
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:24,480
over there and he was almost like become

550
00:21:28,010 --> 00:21:26,490
a media celebrity oh yes Hansol did the

551
00:21:30,110 --> 00:21:28,020
last moment or something and that was

552
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:30,120
also pretty odd because I could see

553
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:33,330
someone saying well you know you can go

554
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:35,010
in the press and give free interviews

555
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:36,330
but if he's not getting paid for this

556
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:38,130
and we get caught in it this information

557
00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:42,240
community bad so there was that too you

558
00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:44,340
know so so do you think because he was

559
00:21:49,130 --> 00:21:47,580
he was paid as a defense contractor do

560
00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:49,140
you think he was actually hired as a

561
00:21:55,010 --> 00:21:52,440
defense contractor to do this well that

562
00:21:58,130 --> 00:21:55,020
I don't know but what I'm saying is he

563
00:22:01,610 --> 00:21:58,140
is or he was as of 2015 a defense

564
00:22:04,010 --> 00:22:01,620
contractor and I know that if he was who

565
00:22:06,170 --> 00:22:04,020
he said he was in 1989 to drug that

566
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:06,180
basically a whistleblower and all this

567
00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:08,610
crazy stuff was happening area 51 and s4

568
00:22:13,310 --> 00:22:10,500
there's no way he would get that

569
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:13,320
clearance in fact you you you come I am

570
00:22:16,910 --> 00:22:14,760
and they brag about it they'll be

571
00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:16,920
they'll be like a number we have passed

572
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:18,840
a certain number and that means that we

573
00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:20,370
can work for the Defense Department you

574
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:22,380
see him a new report all the time he had

575
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,330
one of those and to get those you have

576
00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:26,400
to go through a security check to make

577
00:22:30,290 --> 00:22:28,230
sure yeah you're not shipping the pies

578
00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:30,300
to Russia or whatever you know so if he

579
00:22:34,670 --> 00:22:32,550
was actually blabbing on the government

580
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:34,680
basically a secret program he would not

581
00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:36,090
have been able to get that security

582
00:22:39,860 --> 00:22:37,860
clearance not in a million use in my

583
00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:39,870
opinion yeah I can I can definitely say

584
00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:41,400
I don't that one do you think that

585
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:42,990
anyone any kind of a risk like that

586
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:44,850
would get a security clearance you can't

587
00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:45,890
talk about it

588
00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:50,100
it's classified yeah as they saved my

589
00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:52,980
butt would be grass yeah kid what do you

590
00:22:58,580 --> 00:22:55,350
think no way right no wind especially

591
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,590
one one see hey hey yeah it's nice life

592
00:23:04,100 --> 00:22:59,760
in danger or anything like that

593
00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:04,110
Lazar no I don't think so but he would

594
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:05,460
hit in the book who's gonna who's gonna

595
00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:07,170
kill his life on the down-low now

596
00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:08,700
because of all those who would who would

597
00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:11,700
know a murder him but what's the upside

598
00:23:18,050 --> 00:23:13,380
of murder and Bob Lazar there isn't one

599
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:18,060
because none of it ever and I'll say

600
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:20,130
this again and then you can talk for now

601
00:23:23,060 --> 00:23:21,600
he gets thrown in the van he gets beaten

602
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:23,070
up and then gets dropped off something

603
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:25,290
yes that would be that would add to this

604
00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:28,710
story if if they had reconstructed UFOs

605
00:23:33,710 --> 00:23:31,620
at s4 or if they had any kind of UFOs

606
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,720
anywhere the US military and they were

607
00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:35,280
able to re-engineer him which people

608
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:37,020
always say we would not be living in

609
00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:38,850
this world I say this over and over

610
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:40,740
again we if we had some kind of an

611
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:43,050
antigravity device that we got from a

612
00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:45,000
UFO you wouldn't have launched the Space

613
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:47,640
Shuttle for 20 years for billions of

614
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:49,530
dollars like throwing and launching a

615
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:51,930
dump truck I mean really yeah you would

616
00:23:55,670 --> 00:23:53,910
you would not go through out home well

617
00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:55,680
according you know he had this element

618
00:24:02,150 --> 00:23:59,730
151 supposedly and it's very aloof it

619
00:24:04,340 --> 00:24:02,160
just lasts for you know fraction of a

620
00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:04,350
second or something like that but also

621
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:08,100
he does say in his and his progress of

622
00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:10,200
trying to back engineer these things he

623
00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:12,630
was not he was not able to it was not

624
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:14,760
able to be done okay and which I

625
00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:17,250
actually think if alien craft actually

626
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:19,470
landed here and crashed here whatever I

627
00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:21,210
would think that would be a very big

628
00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:22,860
possibility they couldn't be reversed

629
00:24:26,899 --> 00:24:25,560
engineered but we but they would know

630
00:24:28,489 --> 00:24:26,909
they would get something

631
00:24:30,379 --> 00:24:28,499
from it and number one what they would

632
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:30,389
do is the Space Shuttle would be you

633
00:24:34,369 --> 00:24:31,710
know if he shaped like a big flying

634
00:24:36,399 --> 00:24:34,379
saucer because obviously that's the you

635
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:36,409
know that's the shape to use when you're

636
00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:38,849
traveling in space or interstellar space

637
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:41,220
or something I just don't think we would

638
00:24:46,339 --> 00:24:42,809
be living in this world if our

639
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:46,349
government knew or anyone on earth knew

640
00:24:52,249 --> 00:24:48,809
what UFOs are where they come from what

641
00:24:56,029 --> 00:24:52,259
they're made of right kid yep it's all a

642
00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:56,039
big secret see the kid knows he's still

643
00:25:05,330 --> 00:24:57,710
scares me like a kid have a clearance

644
00:25:07,580 --> 00:25:05,340
dare you Wow he's got these dark glasses

645
00:25:09,589 --> 00:25:07,590
on and he took him off for just a second

646
00:25:11,239 --> 00:25:09,599
to Santa hat on though that's he has to

647
00:25:14,779 --> 00:25:11,249
the black eye kid has to keep his

648
00:25:17,509 --> 00:25:14,789
identity a secret just like Batman Wow

649
00:25:19,399 --> 00:25:17,519
yeah yeah we got about a minute

650
00:25:22,099 --> 00:25:19,409
min and a half two minutes till them to

651
00:25:24,249 --> 00:25:22,109
break and so in that just to let

652
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:24,259
everyone know we're gonna take calls

653
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,970
fairly soon in the show but we're first

654
00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:29,279
of all we're gonna get a hold of switch

655
00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:31,950
plays which plays Deepwood yeah and the

656
00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:33,929
Cobras out there someplace too so I

657
00:25:37,820 --> 00:25:35,940
think we should when we come back after

658
00:25:40,219 --> 00:25:37,830
the break I think we should we should do

659
00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:40,229
that but during the break we got a we're

660
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:43,559
gonna if anyone in YouTube wants to put

661
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:46,529
out in chatroom a topic for us to talk

662
00:25:52,009 --> 00:25:49,289
about during our break have at it

663
00:25:53,869 --> 00:25:52,019
how are we done with Bob Lazar yeah and

664
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:53,879
we also have ten questions for one one

665
00:25:58,039 --> 00:25:55,769
the Christmas edition now we do this on

666
00:25:59,570 --> 00:25:58,049
a show where it started about six months

667
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,580
ago where we had to kill some time so we

668
00:26:03,139 --> 00:26:01,440
asked him ten questions now we have

669
00:26:04,339 --> 00:26:03,149
celebrities call in and ask him ten

670
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:04,349
questions and there's the Christmas

671
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:06,090
edition he was excited about as you can

672
00:26:11,239 --> 00:26:08,970
see right yeah he's he looks looks

673
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:11,249
really made sport of on a regular basis

674
00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:15,840
so I know well getting back getting back

675
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:17,669
out because we just have a little bit of

676
00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:20,460
time left here getting back to Bob Lazar

677
00:26:26,629 --> 00:26:23,820
I I'm gonna say that I'm not a hundred

678
00:26:28,249 --> 00:26:26,639
percent sure either way you know I've

679
00:26:30,219 --> 00:26:28,259
always been on the fence about it but I

680
00:26:32,419 --> 00:26:30,229
got to tell you what you said tonight

681
00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:32,429
seems to make a lot of sense to me

682
00:26:37,789 --> 00:26:35,940
Cobra was is a big disinformation fan

683
00:26:39,979 --> 00:26:37,799
let's say okay and and he was

684
00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:39,989
involved in stuff like this and and all

685
00:26:43,789 --> 00:26:42,059
you have to do is just I don't say all

686
00:26:45,619 --> 00:26:43,799
you have to do but if you if you just

687
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:45,629
have a knowledge about this and this

688
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:48,600
information works you can tick down the

689
00:26:54,169 --> 00:26:51,450
whole Bob Lazar story really up until he

690
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,179
was supposed to go to Japan you know and

691
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:56,159
all of a sudden they didn't want to take

692
00:26:59,419 --> 00:26:57,720
money far there was like a lot of money

693
00:27:00,680 --> 00:26:59,429
he's like a million dollars in 1990 or

694
00:27:02,899 --> 00:27:00,690
something I might have the figures wrong

695
00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:02,909
I don't know but that seems where

696
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:05,940
everything kind of went sideways well

697
00:27:12,259 --> 00:27:09,360
okay well we are going to break now so

698
00:27:14,749 --> 00:27:12,269
hang in everyone over at kg are a radio

699
00:27:17,419 --> 00:27:14,759
we'll be back in a few minutes and my

700
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:17,429
guests are Mac Maloney and one one and a

701
00:27:21,529 --> 00:27:20,129
black eyed kiddo and then we'll be

702
00:27:25,570 --> 00:27:21,539
active be back right after these

703
00:27:32,629 --> 00:27:29,330
all right we're clear pardon yep

704
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:32,639
four minutes and 20 seconds ray all

705
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:35,369
right all right start a timer okay so

706
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:41,369
let's see in the know we're all set now

707
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:44,580
yeah someone in the chat room wants to

708
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:47,009
know why isn't that gimbal video being

709
00:27:53,690 --> 00:27:50,369
talked about more it's a good question I

710
00:27:57,049 --> 00:27:53,700
mean when I saw it I saw it on ABC Good

711
00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:57,059
Morning America okay and it was the day

712
00:28:03,139 --> 00:28:01,080
that the new Star Wars came out ABC is

713
00:28:06,529 --> 00:28:03,149
this really sounds conspiratorial but

714
00:28:07,879 --> 00:28:06,539
ABC's owned by Walt Disney and they

715
00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:07,889
showed it and I remember just sitting

716
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:10,169
this and you know as I said before look

717
00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:13,710
at this thing this is not this is not a

718
00:28:19,849 --> 00:28:15,720
what this is not of this earth thing and

719
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,859
just tell and there's a flurry of

720
00:28:26,019 --> 00:28:21,600
activity around me what do we know we're

721
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,359
are we yeah we're supposed to be on well

722
00:28:32,539 --> 00:28:31,440
we run run you have a better move that

723
00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:32,549
back up okay

724
00:28:36,909 --> 00:28:35,460
so anyway so the woman after they after

725
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:36,919
they saw the video

726
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:40,200
the woman newscaster said I think it's

727
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:42,090
the Millennium Falcon and everyone left

728
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:43,830
and then they went to a commercial and I

729
00:28:49,789 --> 00:28:47,100
said Wow Disney owns ABC here's the ABC

730
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:49,799
commentator bringing up the spaceship in

731
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,290
the Star Wars movie

732
00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:52,880
and we've just seen this incredible

733
00:28:56,590 --> 00:28:55,340
piece of footage you know and people

734
00:28:59,290 --> 00:28:56,600
talked about it but then it went away

735
00:29:01,570 --> 00:28:59,300
yeah and it really bothered well because

736
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:01,580
that was really yeah I think a good

737
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:04,490
answer to that question is all news

738
00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:06,530
right now seems to be going away really

739
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:09,080
fast yep I agree it's a the political

740
00:29:13,780 --> 00:29:11,090
news in this country is like taking over

741
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:13,790
and and then major stories are gone just

742
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:14,240
like that

743
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:16,310
very federal depends on you know what

744
00:29:20,890 --> 00:29:18,890
the you know what the half-life of a

745
00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:20,900
story is you know and if something and

746
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:22,190
I'm sure something happened later that

747
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,650
day or the next day and the UFO thing

748
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:26,000
you know of a sudden you know half the

749
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:27,530
coverage is gone and then it dissipates

750
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:29,330
but I will say one thing in that Navy

751
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:32,000
pilot he's from New Hampshire yeah Hiep

752
00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:34,550
Dave what I'm selling every to everybody

753
00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:37,190
he did he did the media circuit and and

754
00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:39,140
just think about that have you ever seen

755
00:29:44,140 --> 00:29:41,960
a military pilot actually sit down to

756
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:44,150
all these talk shows but he did it but

757
00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:46,130
for whatever reason it just didn't

758
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:49,670
resonate to a country that loves UFOs it

759
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:50,510
doesn't make sense

760
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:53,360
David flavor was his name now we have a

761
00:29:59,230 --> 00:29:56,090
I think a very good question in the chat

762
00:30:01,900 --> 00:29:59,240
room and what do you guys think about

763
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:01,910
Trump's space force and why is it put

764
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:04,490
him to like my politics on the show all

765
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:07,130
right let me rephrase that what do you

766
00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:09,770
think about the space force it's a waste

767
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:11,660
of time and money and it's a publicity

768
00:30:17,050 --> 00:30:14,390
stunt and and and I'll just say this

769
00:30:18,220 --> 00:30:17,060
okay with these people and and there are

770
00:30:19,870 --> 00:30:18,230
friends of mine who are so into

771
00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:19,880
disclosure and they have tattoos

772
00:30:26,110 --> 00:30:23,030
disclosure okay and I am too it didn't

773
00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:26,120
work with Obama I really kind of got

774
00:30:29,710 --> 00:30:27,860
thinking caps on now for a second I've

775
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:29,720
said this before if there was ever

776
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,050
someone who resided at 1600 Pennsylvania

777
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,840
Avenue who if they had the secret to

778
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:38,240
your throws wouldn't tweet about it it

779
00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:39,890
would be the current resident

780
00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:43,430
yeah he has not done it therefore it

781
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:45,470
either doesn't exist or he was not dwelt

782
00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:47,930
on it okay he's probably I would say

783
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:50,200
he's probably not briefed on it and

784
00:30:56,740 --> 00:30:53,630
there there's a because I did speak with

785
00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:56,750
Chris Mellon DoD and he he knew how

786
00:31:00,670 --> 00:30:59,210
those things work and he said that if

787
00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:00,680
the president asked for something you

788
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:03,260
have to tell him but he said the way

789
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:04,790
around it is is to

790
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:06,530
privatize whatever it is looking into

791
00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:09,200
that I'll give you a great example we

792
00:31:13,930 --> 00:31:11,750
have 30 we have about a minute just okay

793
00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:13,940
during the 1970 Richard Nixon was doing

794
00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:16,340
a tour the San Diego Navy Yard and the

795
00:31:21,550 --> 00:31:18,950
Glomar Explorer was docked there now was

796
00:31:23,410 --> 00:31:21,560
the ship that Howard Hughes built with

797
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:23,420
the CIA that had big Claire on it

798
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:24,890
because they knew where a Russian

799
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:26,330
submarine had sunk and they went out in

800
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,680
the Pacific and the claw went down and

801
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:29,360
picked up the submarine it sounds like

802
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:31,730
James Bond but it happened Richard Nixon

803
00:31:35,620 --> 00:31:33,290
said that's an interesting ship could I

804
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:35,630
tore that and they told him no because

805
00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:38,090
it was a classified operation for the

806
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:40,460
CIA CIA along going things something

807
00:31:43,930 --> 00:31:42,290
that would go more than 88 years he

808
00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:43,940
would be in office that's the excuse

809
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:45,950
they gave well and he did not tour the

810
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:48,110
book so presidents that I I've heard

811
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:49,370
that you know if they ask you know how

812
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:51,290
many people licorice and Poland you have

813
00:31:59,220 --> 00:31:57,170
to tell him where race where a race he's

814
00:32:01,510 --> 00:31:59,230
gone

815
00:32:05,530 --> 00:32:01,520
hurry we're ready to go back when you

816
00:32:09,130 --> 00:32:05,540
are we've got about 15 seconds before

817
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:09,140
proper oh really okay well I my timer is

818
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:13,850
up to for almost five minutes okay so

819
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:17,360
yeah we're coming right back on and when

820
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:19,010
we come back on let's get switchblade on

821
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:22,250
or Cobra someone and we need

822
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:26,120
conversation just Britta race just

823
00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:28,730
break-in and if we're talking - count us

824
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:31,550
down you're ready to go we're ready five

825
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:36,130
four three two

826
00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:39,440
alright everyone welcome back and this

827
00:32:45,070 --> 00:32:41,300
is Martin Willis and I my guests tonight

828
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:45,080
are Mac Maloney we have one one and the

829
00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:47,930
black eyed child like a kid is here yeah

830
00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:50,750
okay all right let's explain well

831
00:32:55,690 --> 00:32:53,750
behaved and and he's off camera for

832
00:32:58,390 --> 00:32:55,700
those in YouTube and I don't see anyone

833
00:33:00,250 --> 00:32:58,400
yelling about it yet my kids are this

834
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:00,260
phenomena where kids show up at your

835
00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:03,170
front door usually and they're out there

836
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,150
wearing old old clothes and they're kind

837
00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:07,760
of unkempt and they act like something

838
00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:09,830
out of a Dickens novel right but they

839
00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:11,630
have black eyes and if you let them in

840
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:13,430
your house either you go crazy or they

841
00:33:18,190 --> 00:33:14,720
eat you what is it their kid you

842
00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:18,200
wouldn't know yeah both both yeah

843
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:20,180
you see so it's it's don't let them in

844
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:22,190
your house they warm up to you that you

845
00:33:30,370 --> 00:33:27,650
let them in and I have to I'm gonna tell

846
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:30,380
a little point hypnose says in the chat

847
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:33,170
room does it make sense for a military

848
00:33:38,110 --> 00:33:35,330
state like the u.s. not to have any

849
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:38,120
liftoff capacity ie no access to space

850
00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:40,250
that's not the point no but we do have a

851
00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:45,830
liftoff capacity we have a a a miniature

852
00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:48,590
Space Shuttle called the x-37 and if

853
00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:50,060
you've seen this thing it literally

854
00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:51,560
looks like a space shuttle that's been

855
00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:54,980
shrunk down to about 25% size this thing

856
00:33:59,140 --> 00:33:57,080
is a robot it goes up in orbit and then

857
00:34:00,970 --> 00:33:59,150
just broke a record about a year ago

858
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:00,980
KOCO knows all about this where it was

859
00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:02,410
in a little bit for more than a year

860
00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:06,020
this thing can bring up anything that

861
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:07,550
they would need to fight in orbit I'm

862
00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:10,310
gonna um I'm going to guess that this

863
00:34:15,310 --> 00:34:11,600
thing could bring it up in it it can

864
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:15,320
also be Manticore is convinced that it

865
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:16,970
can also be adapted very quickly to

866
00:34:22,180 --> 00:34:19,910
carry humans into outer space so we do

867
00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:22,190
have a lift capacity and but the whole

868
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:23,900
idea that we're using the Russians to

869
00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:25,490
lift us up to the space station is

870
00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:27,320
really crazy but would it be paying

871
00:34:31,660 --> 00:34:29,060
that's a politics thing they pay them

872
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:31,670
thirty million dollars on lunch 30

873
00:34:36,970 --> 00:34:34,370
million won and you know with that that

874
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:36,980
issue of the last launch you know that

875
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:39,230
makes it even tougher yeah but I think

876
00:34:42,610 --> 00:34:40,310
you're gonna see a lot of changes in

877
00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:42,620
their private eyes you know well grams

878
00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:45,260
in NASA is also has a new capsule that

879
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:47,750
is supposed to be working next year on

880
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:50,570
the following year where it's a if you

881
00:34:53,620 --> 00:34:52,130
remember what the Apollo capsule look

882
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:53,630
like it looked like kind of a big round

883
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:55,850
of death triangle or like a gumdrop it's

884
00:35:00,190 --> 00:34:57,890
all yeah it's it's a bigger version of

885
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,200
that yeah which can bring I think four

886
00:35:03,610 --> 00:35:02,000
or five people up to space up to the

887
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:03,620
space station up in orbit and that's the

888
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:05,690
NASA is actually gonna stop watching

889
00:35:09,790 --> 00:35:07,610
that thing pretty soon in as you say

890
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:09,800
privatized you know let's face it it's

891
00:35:12,850 --> 00:35:11,810
gonna be in 10-15 years it's all gonna

892
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:12,860
be private and that's the way it should

893
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:15,980
be when the government gets involved you

894
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:17,450
know it doesn't always go right you know

895
00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:21,170
yeah the real profit margin to it there

896
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:23,060
was an article in USA Today I just

897
00:35:28,810 --> 00:35:24,770
happened to notice in a restaurant and

898
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:28,820
it said up are our Earthlings gonna

899
00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:31,500
trash Mars like they have earth yeah

900
00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:35,070
IIIi believe what do you say Oh ever

901
00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:37,590
seen this yes yes yes you foresee this

902
00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:39,630
yeah of course they're gonna trash my

903
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:41,160
eyes I mean they've trash to the earth

904
00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:43,110
why would they not trash much yeah

905
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:45,030
someone said on TV the other day imagine

906
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:46,410
if we didn't trash Gareth what a

907
00:35:49,610 --> 00:35:47,850
beautiful place it would be you know

908
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:49,620
because it kind of rennes it yeah on its

909
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:51,210
own well it'll probably run on its own

910
00:35:57,050 --> 00:35:54,090
after we're gone oh yeah everything okay

911
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:57,060
generate after the media hits yeah yeah

912
00:36:01,040 --> 00:35:58,650
they do come around every once in a

913
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:01,050
while and you know you know I'm the

914
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:02,400
thing you always think things are

915
00:36:05,870 --> 00:36:04,380
forever like I was reading somewhere

916
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,880
where the pyramids were actually going

917
00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:07,920
to be they suspect they'll be totally

918
00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:11,400
without a trace in 25 million years yeah

919
00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:12,630
I'll take them that long so yeah that's

920
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,520
a long time to wait down but this is a

921
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:16,560
short time in the Epley talk about you

922
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:18,450
know the four billion year old planet

923
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:20,430
that we have a story in the book about

924
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:24,360
how kal Sagan at one point as a young

925
00:36:31,010 --> 00:36:27,570
scientist he he proposed an idea to

926
00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:31,020
detonate a nuclear bomb on the moon this

927
00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:33,030
is to raise the morale of the United

928
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:35,400
States after the Russians had lied - but

929
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:37,890
Nick and they actually you know went

930
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,810
ahead with this and that studies and so

931
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,520
on and they want what they were gonna do

932
00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:43,440
when the moon was a full moon and the

933
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:45,480
full moon was turned towards the earth

934
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,740
and you could actually you know people

935
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:47,760
on earth would be able to see the

936
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:50,040
nuclear explosion alright this is

937
00:36:54,830 --> 00:36:51,930
supposed to pick us up after you know

938
00:36:57,020 --> 00:36:54,840
well Sputnik went up and then finally

939
00:36:58,340 --> 00:36:57,030
someone in the Pentagon is we can't say

940
00:36:59,780 --> 00:36:58,350
it very often but you know cooler heads

941
00:37:00,740 --> 00:36:59,790
of the printable and the Pentagon

942
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:00,750
prevailed and they said why don't we

943
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:02,520
just put a man in the moon you know

944
00:37:05,330 --> 00:37:03,900
putting a nuke up there is gonna cost

945
00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:05,340
money we'll just put him in one that was

946
00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:06,660
like really the beginning of the space

947
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:09,000
program as weird as that sounds yeah

948
00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:12,840
yeah I mean when Jack Kennedy gave that

949
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:15,480
Proclamation you know it just seemed

950
00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:16,710
like an impossibility

951
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,630
right and they did it you know in a mess

952
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:20,160
and I believe there there's so many

953
00:37:23,570 --> 00:37:22,110
people that actually listen to the show

954
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,580
not so many people but a number of

955
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,960
people say no we never went to well

956
00:37:27,650 --> 00:37:26,460
here's the hoax I was just gonna say

957
00:37:28,610 --> 00:37:27,660
they're gonna detonate a bomb on the

958
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:28,620
moon and that would have contaminated

959
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:30,510
the morning you said 25 million years

960
00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:32,010
for the pyramids would have contaminated

961
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:33,390
the moon forever because there's no

962
00:37:36,830 --> 00:37:34,980
atmosphere there's no sería nothing to

963
00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:36,840
me would have ruined rain yeah you know

964
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,260
but um this is how they got to the moon

965
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:42,960
real quick okay this is how NASA was so

966
00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:44,190
wise back then and not

967
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:46,859
so wise now they took five thousand

968
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:48,270
people or they took ten thousand people

969
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:50,010
million divided them into two separate

970
00:37:54,799 --> 00:37:51,599
groups of five thousand each and they

971
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:54,809
said to him get us to the moon in six

972
00:37:59,260 --> 00:37:57,420
years okay and no one from either group

973
00:38:01,819 --> 00:37:59,270
could talk to each other I heard it was

974
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,829
twenty thousand total I may be saying

975
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:03,359
yeah maybe yeah I mean of those numbers

976
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:04,770
yeah but they split them in half and

977
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:07,890
then once the six years had passed they

978
00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:10,049
took the best idea some both put them

979
00:38:13,549 --> 00:38:11,339
together and we're around the moon in

980
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:13,559
1969 and like two and a half years

981
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:16,200
that's amazing but these days some you

982
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:18,569
know Harvard grad in business would say

983
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:20,250
that's not a good way to you know spend

984
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:21,780
the money so we have to strip at them

985
00:38:26,029 --> 00:38:23,490
and so on and you lose all your

986
00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:26,039
innovation and you know well you think

987
00:38:32,569 --> 00:38:29,160
about the time 1969 July whenever it was

988
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:32,579
July 20th 2010 19th but um you think

989
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:35,250
about that time and the technology they

990
00:38:41,660 --> 00:38:38,760
had in push-button stuff math and using

991
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:41,670
a slide rule and all that just amazing

992
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:44,640
that they the capsule the capsule landed

993
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:47,700
on the moon has the exact less than the

994
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:50,400
calculating power of today's or of

995
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:52,710
calculators from 20 years ago you know

996
00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:55,770
they had they had it was just amazing

997
00:39:00,380 --> 00:38:57,630
you're right there's all analog stuff

998
00:39:01,579 --> 00:39:00,390
and every few you know semiconductors or

999
00:39:04,099 --> 00:39:01,589
circuits or anything

1000
00:39:06,980 --> 00:39:04,109
we have blade in the chat room I'm what

1001
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:06,990
I'm assuming it's the same one and we

1002
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:08,670
can get them on if you want he's asking

1003
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:10,440
if the moon landing was a hoax

1004
00:39:16,099 --> 00:39:13,770
and I say no no I did speak with Alan be

1005
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:16,109
hearing this so being a limousine yep

1006
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:18,150
yeah I actually have a podcast it's on

1007
00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:19,770
my antique site because he was a painter

1008
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:22,920
really a great painter yep so but anyway

1009
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:25,170
he said he's not gonna try to change

1010
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:27,210
anyone's mind the people that come up to

1011
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:28,380
him in the grocery store and say we

1012
00:39:32,180 --> 00:39:29,220
never landed on the moon

1013
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:32,190
see but the rover the lunar I'm sorry

1014
00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:35,520
the orbiters orbiter has awesome

1015
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:38,190
pictures of all the landings with

1016
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:40,200
footprints and everything so anyone that

1017
00:39:43,309 --> 00:39:41,940
thinks we never landed on the moon they

1018
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:43,319
all they have to do it to research and

1019
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:45,150
there's a Japanese satellite that has

1020
00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:46,680
been going around the moon for years and

1021
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:48,119
you can actually log on to the web site

1022
00:39:51,260 --> 00:39:49,260
and it's only something like a hundred

1023
00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:51,270
miles up or something and that's also

1024
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:52,950
you know showing the Apollo landing

1025
00:39:56,420 --> 00:39:54,930
sites and it's in once again we say this

1026
00:39:57,340 --> 00:39:56,430
all the time when conspiracies come up

1027
00:40:01,240 --> 00:39:57,350
is

1028
00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:01,250
on the moon

1029
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:03,320
what would the conspiracy take it would

1030
00:40:06,610 --> 00:40:05,090
it would take 20,000 people and none of

1031
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:06,620
those people are gonna you know say

1032
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:07,520
here's the proof

1033
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:08,810
yeah I know yeah it's just all

1034
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,250
conjecture and stuff in that movie

1035
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:13,040
didn't help Capricorn One Oh Jay was in

1036
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:14,930
it remember that Roni didn't want one I

1037
00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:17,230
hate Oh Jay me too

1038
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:19,700
hey dude can we get switchblade on I'm

1039
00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:22,490
travelling but I'm having a problem we

1040
00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:24,350
see he's in the chat anyway where's Matt

1041
00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:31,430
where's our engineer forget him well kid

1042
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:32,990
that we land in the Monon Oh who's who's

1043
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:36,410
Steve who's Steph Curry if he coaches

1044
00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:39,290
the Golden State Warriors oh okay he

1045
00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:40,670
says that NASA never went to the moon

1046
00:40:45,580 --> 00:40:43,400
okay here my blood they won last year he

1047
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:45,590
apologized to astronauts because they

1048
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:46,880
convinced him eventually

1049
00:40:50,530 --> 00:40:49,190
oh but at first you know he did think

1050
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:50,540
that we never you know you know why I

1051
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:52,130
understand and it's the same thing with

1052
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:54,710
any conspiracy or most conspiracies

1053
00:41:00,430 --> 00:40:58,490
people the it's either some type of fear

1054
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,440
or it doesn't make sense that we could

1055
00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:02,960
do it at the time and I can understand

1056
00:41:07,570 --> 00:41:05,720
1969 with the technology it is it is a

1057
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:07,580
miracle but that's kind of dissing the

1058
00:41:12,130 --> 00:41:10,670
humans who you know stayed up night upon

1059
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:12,140
night then we'll make alkylation so

1060
00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:14,210
stuff like this you know I mean you know

1061
00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:17,180
we do nuclear submarines that are so big

1062
00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:18,860
you can't imagine them you know we put

1063
00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:20,870
we put two-seat aircraft carriers that

1064
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:22,760
carry five thousand people and launch

1065
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:24,950
100 airplanes a day sometimes you know

1066
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:26,630
they can travel for 15 years without

1067
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:28,910
refueling you know that's cool stuff

1068
00:41:32,010 --> 00:41:30,530
like that can be done and even in the

1069
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:32,020
private industry like when you hear

1070
00:41:37,090 --> 00:41:34,610
companies like Exxon will go down you

1071
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:37,100
know to to some go out to say kanpai to

1072
00:41:41,140 --> 00:41:38,930
the Atlantic and find oil there and

1073
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:41,150
drill it and you know cut and spend

1074
00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:42,470
billions and billions of dollars in

1075
00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:44,870
unbelievable engineering feats that's

1076
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:45,260
right

1077
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:47,150
this stuff happens you know it happens

1078
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,970
yeah yeah but you know any can you

1079
00:41:53,830 --> 00:41:52,400
imagine any astronaut that first you

1080
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:53,840
know the first group that went up there

1081
00:41:58,660 --> 00:41:56,570
they must have given themselves a 50-50

1082
00:42:00,460 --> 00:41:58,670
chance that they oh yeah yeah yeah for

1083
00:42:02,590 --> 00:42:00,470
sure the funny thing is is we've landed

1084
00:42:04,270 --> 00:42:02,600
men in the moment we can't get switch on

1085
00:42:05,410 --> 00:42:04,280
Skype is that what's going on yeah

1086
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:05,420
that's kind of what's going on

1087
00:42:10,299 --> 00:42:09,050
how about guys oh here he is Wow you

1088
00:42:13,299 --> 00:42:10,309
guys just came in

1089
00:42:15,309 --> 00:42:13,309
we're on the est Wow so I don't know for

1090
00:42:17,380 --> 00:42:15,319
my listeners who the heck do we have on

1091
00:42:19,269 --> 00:42:17,390
the line here switch and let's hear

1092
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:19,279
about who is switcher the switchblade

1093
00:42:22,449 --> 00:42:21,049
Steve one Lou's up there and Battle

1094
00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:22,459
Creek Michigan the home of the flakes

1095
00:42:27,219 --> 00:42:25,369
you know where General Mills and killer

1096
00:42:29,529 --> 00:42:27,229
Kellogg's is he's a national

1097
00:42:32,439 --> 00:42:29,539
correspondent he does a weekly spot

1098
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:32,449
called reports from the fringe so when I

1099
00:42:35,049 --> 00:42:33,650
was growing up we were talking earlier

1100
00:42:36,459 --> 00:42:35,059
and I'd read you know Ripley's believe

1101
00:42:41,289 --> 00:42:36,469
in knob books and stuff like that but I

1102
00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:41,299
also read lots of UFO books and so I'm

1103
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:42,920
really I really have an affection for a

1104
00:42:46,959 --> 00:42:45,049
nineteen fifties contactee you all

1105
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:46,969
things can we talk about contactees

1106
00:42:50,259 --> 00:42:48,529
that's what the switch to see ya tonight

1107
00:42:52,529 --> 00:42:50,269
Fossum I'd love to hear about that

1108
00:42:55,479 --> 00:42:52,539
okay switch you're on stage go ahead

1109
00:42:58,059 --> 00:42:55,489
great by the way thanks for having me on

1110
00:42:59,949 --> 00:42:58,069
it's great to be here great great to see

1111
00:43:03,579 --> 00:42:59,959
Skype working once in a while to you

1112
00:43:06,130 --> 00:43:03,589
know okay yeah so try not to buy my

1113
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:06,140
tools I have a I have a kind of

1114
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:07,849
confession to make about the contact

1115
00:43:12,549 --> 00:43:10,609
geez now as we know we we kind of make a

1116
00:43:16,019 --> 00:43:12,559
distinction between the contactees and

1117
00:43:18,459 --> 00:43:16,029
the the experiencers or the abductees

1118
00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:18,469
back in the old days when I first got

1119
00:43:25,419 --> 00:43:22,009
into this stuff the line it was a little

1120
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:25,429
bit blurred and so when I started

1121
00:43:29,799 --> 00:43:27,410
hearing some of the stories about people

1122
00:43:31,749 --> 00:43:29,809
like George Adamski and so forth I am I

1123
00:43:34,689 --> 00:43:31,759
didn't know for sure how to process them

1124
00:43:37,390 --> 00:43:34,699
but of course now Adamski was kind of

1125
00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:37,400
the one of the major contactees

1126
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:40,390
supposedly back about 1952 and the

1127
00:43:46,269 --> 00:43:43,729
desert in California he was supposed to

1128
00:43:48,910 --> 00:43:46,279
have contacted a Venusian named or thon

1129
00:43:51,279 --> 00:43:48,920
which landed in a Venusian Scout ship

1130
00:43:53,969 --> 00:43:51,289
and he had a conversation with him that

1131
00:43:57,069 --> 00:43:53,979
the thing is about the contactees as

1132
00:44:00,429 --> 00:43:57,079
it's very strange because obviously some

1133
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:00,439
of these guys were telling stories I

1134
00:44:04,959 --> 00:44:02,089
mean some some of the things just don't

1135
00:44:06,219 --> 00:44:04,969
hold up but when you pursue some of

1136
00:44:09,279 --> 00:44:06,229
these things it almost seems like

1137
00:44:10,809 --> 00:44:09,289
there's a strange dichotomy between

1138
00:44:16,209 --> 00:44:10,819
what's real and what's not

1139
00:44:18,669 --> 00:44:16,219
but is everybody familiar with that with

1140
00:44:20,919 --> 00:44:18,679
George he was yes he was kind of the

1141
00:44:22,839 --> 00:44:20,929
king of the contact he's he wrote his

1142
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:22,849
first book he co-authored with Desmond

1143
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,630
Leslie

1144
00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:25,760
called flying saucers have landed

1145
00:44:30,850 --> 00:44:29,030
Desmond Leslie was an Englishman who in

1146
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:30,860
that part of the book he gave kind of a

1147
00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:33,050
kind of a general background of the

1148
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:35,150
history of UFOs and so forth up to that

1149
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:37,250
point and then to the other half of the

1150
00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:39,650
book George Adamski talks about this

1151
00:44:44,350 --> 00:44:42,830
alleged contact well and also there was

1152
00:44:46,810 --> 00:44:44,360
supposed to be several witnesses there

1153
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:46,820
well it's very interesting because when

1154
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:48,770
you when you pursue this a little bit

1155
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:52,880
further race stanford who has been on

1156
00:44:58,090 --> 00:44:55,610
Maggs show before race stanford he's a

1157
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,100
friendly so yeah oh okay one thing you

1158
00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:01,040
know that he wrote the Sakura Sakura

1159
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:02,990
saucer in a Pentagon pantry that's right

1160
00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:06,110
and of course Sakura was a was a classic

1161
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:07,820
what we would call close encounter of

1162
00:45:14,650 --> 00:45:11,210
the Third Kind we're in it was in new

1163
00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:14,660
New Mexico where he saw this craft land

1164
00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:17,350
and as he got closer he saw two

1165
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:22,300
essentially humanoids rather short

1166
00:45:26,770 --> 00:45:25,310
individuals in coveralls it looked like

1167
00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:26,780
they were doing something or repairing

1168
00:45:31,630 --> 00:45:29,500
their aircraft and then they took off

1169
00:45:34,270 --> 00:45:31,640
this is by the way this is long before

1170
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:34,280
the greys started showing up in some of

1171
00:45:39,310 --> 00:45:37,190
these contact experiences people people

1172
00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:39,320
when they think about you know contact

1173
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:41,390
or humanoids or whatever they think

1174
00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:43,670
about the classic gray the big-headed

1175
00:45:48,370 --> 00:45:46,550
guy with the big eyes but back but they

1176
00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:48,380
didn't really start showing up in mass

1177
00:45:52,930 --> 00:45:50,990
until about the 1980s so these guys were

1178
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,940
in coveralls he didn't get a good look

1179
00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:54,800
at them but they looked fairly human

1180
00:46:00,850 --> 00:45:57,350
okay anyway I digress him in minute but

1181
00:46:03,580 --> 00:46:00,860
race stanford knew George Adamski when

1182
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:03,590
he was a young man yes and George

1183
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,650
actually showed him how he faked some of

1184
00:46:11,140 --> 00:46:08,000
his photographs that's a hundred percent

1185
00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:11,150
right yes ray has told me this it's

1186
00:46:15,220 --> 00:46:12,340
really amazing

1187
00:46:16,420 --> 00:46:15,230
and he even said that the the classic

1188
00:46:18,970 --> 00:46:16,430
Venusian scoutship

1189
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:18,980
that part of that came to 'islam that he

1190
00:46:23,620 --> 00:46:21,470
brought back from that his family when

1191
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:23,630
they emigrated over from Poland so that

1192
00:46:30,310 --> 00:46:25,930
became part of the Venusian scoutship

1193
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:30,320
but very it's very interesting Ray

1194
00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:33,200
Palmer who of course was the author of

1195
00:46:36,819 --> 00:46:35,240
amazing stories the the editor of

1196
00:46:38,709 --> 00:46:36,829
amazing stories

1197
00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:38,719
received a manuscript from George

1198
00:46:44,859 --> 00:46:42,200
Adamski at one point in the very late

1199
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:44,869
40s I believe it was no I'm sorry

1200
00:46:53,859 --> 00:46:49,670
early 40s and the story line was had to

1201
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:53,869
do with Jesus coming to earth landing in

1202
00:46:58,900 --> 00:46:56,089
the desert in a rocket ship had

1203
00:47:01,150 --> 00:46:58,910
contacting somebody so if you change

1204
00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:01,160
Jesus to or thron if you changed the

1205
00:47:04,539 --> 00:47:03,140
rocket ship to a Venusian Scout ship you

1206
00:47:09,130 --> 00:47:04,549
have basically the template for that

1207
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:09,140
first contact so that's that's pretty

1208
00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:10,729
cool now that debt manuscript was never

1209
00:47:15,809 --> 00:47:12,440
published he did publish another

1210
00:47:18,430 --> 00:47:15,819
manuscript called pioneers of space

1211
00:47:20,589 --> 00:47:18,440
which is kind of like the template for

1212
00:47:22,930 --> 00:47:20,599
his second book which was called inside

1213
00:47:24,999 --> 00:47:22,940
the spaceships where he supposedly is

1214
00:47:27,729 --> 00:47:25,009
contacted by his Venusian friend again

1215
00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:27,739
and somebody from Saturn and a Martian

1216
00:47:34,329 --> 00:47:31,670
and they take him up into a Scout a one

1217
00:47:39,249 --> 00:47:34,339
of the giant cigar ships like a mile

1218
00:47:43,029 --> 00:47:39,259
long or so but anyway very interesting

1219
00:47:45,069 --> 00:47:43,039
you know there's a there was a I grew up

1220
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,079
in the Detroit area and there was a

1221
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:47,839
flying saucer Club back in the early 50s

1222
00:47:52,839 --> 00:47:49,729
mmm-hmm and they started they were

1223
00:47:55,449 --> 00:47:52,849
pretty enamored by some of these contact

1224
00:47:56,799 --> 00:47:55,459
claims so they got together the first

1225
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:56,809
guy that they had speaked there they

1226
00:48:01,029 --> 00:47:58,729
brought him in from California they got

1227
00:48:02,890 --> 00:48:01,039
raised the money for a couple lectures

1228
00:48:05,439 --> 00:48:02,900
for George Adamski and they had you know

1229
00:48:07,209 --> 00:48:05,449
some of the other early contactees like

1230
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:07,219
Truman bathroom and so forth but they

1231
00:48:12,219 --> 00:48:09,049
also had some of the in quotes

1232
00:48:18,489 --> 00:48:12,229
legitimate guys like major Donald Akiho

1233
00:48:20,170 --> 00:48:18,499
and and so forth so anyway it's theirs

1234
00:48:22,449 --> 00:48:20,180
can I ask a question switch oh

1235
00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:22,459
absolutely how many people were in your

1236
00:48:32,259 --> 00:48:30,140
flying saucer club I we had a high

1237
00:48:36,969 --> 00:48:32,269
school UFO Club which we had four of us

1238
00:48:38,799 --> 00:48:36,979
okay yes this is a good decade and a

1239
00:48:40,539 --> 00:48:38,809
half later so I was born with just a

1240
00:48:42,370 --> 00:48:40,549
little bit too late to be in on the

1241
00:48:44,890 --> 00:48:42,380
ground floor on what's the over/under of

1242
00:48:47,669 --> 00:48:44,900
girls and his girls and donuts are

1243
00:48:57,909 --> 00:48:54,849
please have any ladies no but Helen and

1244
00:49:00,609 --> 00:48:57,919
Helen Bryant and what was her husband's

1245
00:49:02,739 --> 00:49:00,619
name they get Arthur I believe oh they

1246
00:49:06,909 --> 00:49:02,749
they wrote a book called I'm sorry

1247
00:49:09,130 --> 00:49:06,919
Kobe Bryant they wrote about Strava the

1248
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:09,140
show long I'm sorry oh that's all right

1249
00:49:15,489 --> 00:49:12,529
yeah please interrupt it because I'm

1250
00:49:16,749 --> 00:49:15,499
there's so much to say about this they

1251
00:49:18,999 --> 00:49:16,759
they wrote a book called the Flying

1252
00:49:20,699 --> 00:49:19,009
Saucer pilgrimage now they were again

1253
00:49:23,019 --> 00:49:20,709
these guys were on the ground floor they

1254
00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:23,029
accepted the possibility that some of

1255
00:49:27,279 --> 00:49:25,849
these you know stories were true and

1256
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:27,289
they're kind of intermixed with again

1257
00:49:31,659 --> 00:49:28,910
with some of the more like Edward

1258
00:49:33,189 --> 00:49:31,669
ruppelt was another guy that spoke Roger

1259
00:49:35,529 --> 00:49:33,199
Blue Book for the Air Force for a long

1260
00:49:38,169 --> 00:49:35,539
time exactly and he wrote the a classic

1261
00:49:40,809 --> 00:49:38,179
book the report unidentified flying

1262
00:49:42,189 --> 00:49:40,819
objects it's a the book there's a lot of

1263
00:49:44,019 --> 00:49:42,199
people saying buddy yeah but at the end

1264
00:49:46,479 --> 00:49:44,029
of his life though he signed a document

1265
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,489
saying that he disowned all of them she

1266
00:49:51,279 --> 00:49:47,839
wasn't buying it or something I heard

1267
00:49:53,319 --> 00:49:51,289
about yep he's the guy he came up with

1268
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:53,329
the what in my mind want the best ideas

1269
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:55,729
ever is he said when we do a motion

1270
00:50:01,949 --> 00:49:58,880
study a time motion study on UFOs to see

1271
00:50:03,939 --> 00:50:01,959
if they are under intelligent control

1272
00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:03,949
unintelligent control on his he had a

1273
00:50:07,779 --> 00:50:06,140
perfect analogy if I can use that word

1274
00:50:09,759 --> 00:50:07,789
he said when you see a swarm of bees

1275
00:50:11,319 --> 00:50:09,769
they're flying around but you know no

1276
00:50:12,669 --> 00:50:11,329
one really knows where they're going you

1277
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:12,679
know they're just going on at the swarm

1278
00:50:16,659 --> 00:50:15,049
but if you see of chevron of geese they

1279
00:50:18,459 --> 00:50:16,669
are following a leader that's

1280
00:50:20,709 --> 00:50:18,469
intelligent control and he said let's

1281
00:50:22,029 --> 00:50:20,719
just take all our motion pictures of

1282
00:50:23,439 --> 00:50:22,039
these things and see if we can determine

1283
00:50:25,179 --> 00:50:23,449
whether the runner you know quote

1284
00:50:26,649 --> 00:50:25,189
unquote intelligent control knot and the

1285
00:50:32,140 --> 00:50:26,659
Pentagon turned him down for the money

1286
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:32,150
so so let's see we had someone wanted to

1287
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:36,319
know did these contactees they all

1288
00:50:42,609 --> 00:50:38,390
talked about positive experiences didn't

1289
00:50:44,739 --> 00:50:42,619
they yes that way think that's why a lot

1290
00:50:46,149 --> 00:50:44,749
of people kind of let them ride I think

1291
00:50:49,149 --> 00:50:46,159
because they had all these great

1292
00:50:53,499 --> 00:50:49,159
messages about peace and the all these

1293
00:50:55,899 --> 00:50:53,509
space brothers were not only photogenic

1294
00:50:59,409 --> 00:50:55,909
they had these these great great

1295
00:51:00,460 --> 00:50:59,419
messages of getting you know banning the

1296
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:00,470
mom and

1297
00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:02,690
was this sound before before probing

1298
00:51:08,830 --> 00:51:06,950
would you say yes in fact it was the

1299
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,840
that really didn't it you know what's

1300
00:51:14,290 --> 00:51:10,400
interesting because when you watch the

1301
00:51:16,420 --> 00:51:14,300
overall sort of evolution of this there

1302
00:51:19,180 --> 00:51:16,430
is a definite there are definite things

1303
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:19,190
that kind of changed over the years and

1304
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:21,609
that would be one of them with JJ

1305
00:51:28,839 --> 00:51:26,510
methodology yep so Wow like the politics

1306
00:51:31,810 --> 00:51:28,849
of dances so III would say that the

1307
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,820
Donald keyhole was a Marine officer and

1308
00:51:35,140 --> 00:51:33,440
I read a lot of his books in the 50s

1309
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:35,150
yeah and to me he was like the guy

1310
00:51:39,580 --> 00:51:37,849
because even as a kid I thought well you

1311
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:39,590
know he's a military officer he worked

1312
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:42,880
in a pentagon and he had a true

1313
00:51:48,099 --> 00:51:46,490
questioning about what UFOs were so he

1314
00:51:50,290 --> 00:51:48,109
was a guy who you know wasn't on the

1315
00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:50,300
take and wasn't you know making stuff up

1316
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:53,030
he was shut off of a CBS broadcast once

1317
00:51:57,580 --> 00:51:55,970
and UFOs by the Pentagon so he he must

1318
00:51:59,290 --> 00:51:57,590
have known something then he must is a

1319
00:52:01,200 --> 00:51:59,300
great interview with him on some trying

1320
00:52:02,650 --> 00:52:01,210
to remember who the newscaster was with

1321
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:02,660
Mike Wallace

1322
00:52:09,339 --> 00:52:07,520
he was shut down right in the middle of

1323
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:09,349
a show right yeah they actually generals

1324
00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:11,390
actually they spoke first it was like

1325
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:13,190
late 50s they spoke first and then

1326
00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:15,410
assistant vice TV at the in in the

1327
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:16,790
commercial break they took over the

1328
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:19,520
broadcast rights which yeah it was the

1329
00:52:25,870 --> 00:52:22,730
Armstrong Circle theatre in January and

1330
00:52:28,089 --> 00:52:25,880
in 1958 and originally you know he

1331
00:52:30,099 --> 00:52:28,099
thought he was going to have some time

1332
00:52:31,630 --> 00:52:30,109
to present his case they had of course

1333
00:52:34,420 --> 00:52:31,640
they had Donald Menzel there the big

1334
00:52:37,180 --> 00:52:34,430
skeptic and actually cynic the Air Force

1335
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:37,190
was there represented Kenneth Arnold was

1336
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:39,320
supposed to speak for either saw the the

1337
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:42,670
first first major sighting in 47 and

1338
00:52:46,510 --> 00:52:44,810
they all had to have a script you know

1339
00:52:48,310 --> 00:52:46,520
they had teleprompters but they kept

1340
00:52:50,109 --> 00:52:48,320
telling him well you can't say this you

1341
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:50,119
can't say that you can't get in a

1342
00:52:54,550 --> 00:52:52,310
confrontation with the Air Force and all

1343
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:54,560
the major points that Kehoe had to

1344
00:52:58,359 --> 00:52:55,910
demonstrate that there was really some

1345
00:53:00,490 --> 00:52:58,369
substance of this they knocked out

1346
00:53:03,010 --> 00:53:00,500
so finally Kenneth Arnold said you know

1347
00:53:04,359 --> 00:53:03,020
I'm just not doing this they're just you

1348
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:04,369
know they they say there's supposed to

1349
00:53:11,380 --> 00:53:07,390
be fair and balanced but it's not and so

1350
00:53:12,670 --> 00:53:11,390
Kehoe was so frustrated and you know the

1351
00:53:13,870 --> 00:53:12,680
the guy that was producing it was a

1352
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:13,880
friend of his and

1353
00:53:19,540 --> 00:53:16,610
he hated to do this but it had just had

1354
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,550
just been building up I mean they it's a

1355
00:53:25,060 --> 00:53:22,400
great story in one of his books flying

1356
00:53:26,740 --> 00:53:25,070
saucers top secret I believe he outlines

1357
00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:26,750
the whole thing and it got to the point

1358
00:53:31,390 --> 00:53:29,300
where he stops from gets from the script

1359
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:31,400
and he says okay now listen I've got

1360
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:34,010
something really important that I have

1361
00:53:39,070 --> 00:53:36,290
to say and they panicked they didn't

1362
00:53:41,650 --> 00:53:39,080
know what to do so they they cut off his

1363
00:53:43,330 --> 00:53:41,660
mic first so he's he didn't know it but

1364
00:53:45,250 --> 00:53:43,340
he just kept talking so some of the

1365
00:53:47,050 --> 00:53:45,260
people in the local audience there heard

1366
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:47,060
what he was saying it was essentially

1367
00:53:50,830 --> 00:53:49,250
that there was some you know some real

1368
00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:50,840
substance of some of these sightings and

1369
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:53,150
some really qualified people had seen

1370
00:53:58,420 --> 00:53:55,910
them and but that they'd see the whole

1371
00:54:00,340 --> 00:53:58,430
thing backfired on the Air Force and a

1372
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:00,350
network because people wanted to know

1373
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:01,910
why the hell was it they cut his

1374
00:54:06,310 --> 00:54:04,130
microphone yeah sure and so they called

1375
00:54:08,530 --> 00:54:06,320
into the station and they were they were

1376
00:54:10,510 --> 00:54:08,540
furious you know so it really actually

1377
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:10,520
went in Kehoe's favor mm-hmm and that

1378
00:54:13,630 --> 00:54:11,930
was that was pretty good can you imagine

1379
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,640
if something like that happened today

1380
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:15,920
can you imagine some be on ABC Good

1381
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,390
Morning America and they cut his mic

1382
00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:18,800
Mesa I have something very important to

1383
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,830
tell you about UFOs and is yeah on the

1384
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:26,960
view why don't we do it on this show

1385
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:29,930
okay speaking of that comic relief we

1386
00:54:34,930 --> 00:54:32,480
have 10 questions for one one if you

1387
00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:34,940
wind up oh alright Steve is usually on

1388
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:37,190
the line when we do that to Anthony but

1389
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:39,650
I tell you what though we have to go to

1390
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:43,010
break in 1 minute and 20 seconds so we

1391
00:54:49,110 --> 00:54:46,430
would kid in 10 seconds no no no no yeah

1392
00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:49,120
yeah no well go we'll go back to that

1393
00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:52,340
right right after the break and also

1394
00:54:57,010 --> 00:54:53,990
just to let everyone know we're going to

1395
00:54:59,560 --> 00:54:57,020
be giving away 5 books a Mac's latest

1396
00:55:01,210 --> 00:54:59,570
book and that will be coming up in the

1397
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:01,220
second hour also we'll be taking calls

1398
00:55:08,140 --> 00:55:06,290
then as well and I have a question I'm

1399
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:08,150
going to ask you in particular Mac when

1400
00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:12,710
we go into break so I think I think we

1401
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:14,270
can go into break now so why the heck

1402
00:55:17,110 --> 00:55:15,650
let's just do it okay

1403
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,120
all right everyone so there's good

1404
00:55:19,810 --> 00:55:19,040
chicken control now Martin yes finally

1405
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,820
yes

1406
00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:22,160
this is Martin Willis I'm with Max

1407
00:55:29,070 --> 00:55:25,750
Maloney say one did you say finally yeah

1408
00:55:32,220 --> 00:55:29,080
yeah you missed your little thing and we

1409
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:32,230
have the black eyed kid right and we'll

1410
00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:40,560
all right we're clear there's four

1411
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:43,480
minutes and 50 seconds in this break

1412
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:47,710
that's 500 seconds four minutes and 50

1413
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:50,290
seconds yeah four minutes and forty five

1414
00:55:57,380 --> 00:55:52,810
all right got it we're all set on this

1415
00:55:59,700 --> 00:55:57,390
end all right so here is a here is gasps

1416
00:56:04,980 --> 00:55:59,710
no that wasn't even that wasn't gas

1417
00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:04,990
masks let's see okay is it treason

1418
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:07,840
that's his screen name as soon as I

1419
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:09,670
heard this guy as soon as I heard that

1420
00:56:15,089 --> 00:56:12,910
guy nearest to the camera say if we had

1421
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:15,099
recovered UFOs we would not be using

1422
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:17,770
rockets I knew he was talking bull are

1423
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:20,650
you having this everyone all right so

1424
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:23,230
let's uh let's address that man that's

1425
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:25,300
fine you know but but you know prove me

1426
00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:27,609
wrong you know would you really gather

1427
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:29,260
together you know all these people who

1428
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,640
work for NASA and all the different

1429
00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:33,119
defense contractors and rocket

1430
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:35,020
contractors and the people who make the

1431
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:37,030
fuel cells and so on and so forth get

1432
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:38,710
them all together spend billions of

1433
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:42,130
dollars you know over 30 years or

1434
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,530
whatever or more to put together what is

1435
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:46,000
the most complicated piece of machinery

1436
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:48,220
you ever met whatever made by mankind

1437
00:56:53,849 --> 00:56:50,530
that was a space shuttle right and and

1438
00:56:57,390 --> 00:56:53,859
they did it for almost 30 years would

1439
00:57:00,300 --> 00:56:57,400
you do that in good conscience when you

1440
00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:00,310
know that you would have maybe something

1441
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:03,550
that you were able to re-engineer from a

1442
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:06,490
crashed UFO some kind of technology and

1443
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:08,830
as I said before even if it's impossible

1444
00:57:15,690 --> 00:57:13,359
to decipher the technology that might be

1445
00:57:17,099 --> 00:57:15,700
any befall impact engineer I'm gonna I'm

1446
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:17,109
gonna make a it would be shaped like a

1447
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:19,210
it would be shaped like like a saucer or

1448
00:57:22,410 --> 00:57:21,070
a cigar shaped object I'm gonna make an

1449
00:57:25,140 --> 00:57:22,420
analogy all right

1450
00:57:27,570 --> 00:57:25,150
give your iPhone seven or eight or

1451
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:27,580
whatever it is to someone two hundred

1452
00:57:32,730 --> 00:57:29,410
years ago and say there you go make

1453
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:32,740
another one sure I agree but if that

1454
00:57:35,609 --> 00:57:34,210
person grew up to make the first cell

1455
00:57:37,019 --> 00:57:35,619
phone it would be shaped like the cell

1456
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,029
phone they gave them 200

1457
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:39,839
years ago it wouldn't be shaped like a

1458
00:57:44,339 --> 00:57:43,209
hippopotamus you know what I'm saying is

1459
00:57:46,109 --> 00:57:44,349
that what's the matter with a

1460
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:46,119
hippopotamus fun at all if you're into

1461
00:57:51,179 --> 00:57:47,049
him that's all right

1462
00:57:53,399 --> 00:57:51,189
hippo fall you you would learn something

1463
00:57:55,380 --> 00:57:53,409
you would learn something and especially

1464
00:57:57,630 --> 00:57:55,390
you know when you really want to get

1465
00:57:58,679 --> 00:57:57,640
down - why would you off I was crash you

1466
00:58:01,469 --> 00:57:58,689
know if they're supposed to be these

1467
00:58:03,689 --> 00:58:01,479
technological marvels why would any of

1468
00:58:05,399 --> 00:58:03,699
them crash and why wouldn't we have a

1469
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:05,409
bunch of them nothing's perfect

1470
00:58:09,179 --> 00:58:07,689
unless that's true unless yet maybe

1471
00:58:12,059 --> 00:58:09,189
they're shot down or whatever but once

1472
00:58:14,219 --> 00:58:12,069
again or Alessa not used to say they

1473
00:58:16,859 --> 00:58:14,229
always the the radar thing comes up a

1474
00:58:18,929 --> 00:58:16,869
lot but did people see a thousand UFOs

1475
00:58:20,759 --> 00:58:18,939
every month around the world okay

1476
00:58:23,669 --> 00:58:20,769
they're they're not afraid of radar and

1477
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:23,679
we're we're full of radar you know well

1478
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:25,569
they had to up their technology that's

1479
00:58:28,979 --> 00:58:27,369
all well maybe well if they're coming

1480
00:58:30,659 --> 00:58:28,989
here from another plane or another time

1481
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:30,669
in another dimension then you would

1482
00:58:33,059 --> 00:58:31,569
think that they would have something

1483
00:58:34,529 --> 00:58:33,069
like that covet and frankly they should

1484
00:58:38,189 --> 00:58:34,539
have sight and sound of mind

1485
00:58:39,779 --> 00:58:38,199
they'd have they'd have probing covered

1486
00:58:41,429 --> 00:58:39,789
- I don't think they would really have

1487
00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:41,439
yeah we have we have a lot of people

1488
00:58:45,089 --> 00:58:43,150
talking about that in that in the

1489
00:58:47,669 --> 00:58:45,099
chatroom and I've tried to calm that

1490
00:58:51,269 --> 00:58:47,679
down a little bit let's see just trumpet

1491
00:58:52,859 --> 00:58:51,279
I'll ask him this is another person

1492
00:58:55,789 --> 00:58:52,869
asking this Hypno's ask him to think

1493
00:58:58,979 --> 00:58:55,799
about if the tech turns out to be

1494
00:59:01,649 --> 00:58:58,989
reproducible by a single person with

1495
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:01,659
limited materials they would keep it

1496
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:04,209
secret well why would you keep it secret

1497
00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:07,209
you could make billions on it no why did

1498
00:59:12,709 --> 00:59:08,859
you keep it secret and in this whole

1499
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:12,719
idea is if the u.s. knows what UFOs are

1500
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:15,249
why would you necessarily keep that

1501
00:59:18,839 --> 00:59:16,900
secret as well I know a lot of people

1502
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:18,849
say well you know if we find out in

1503
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:20,169
Winston Churchill was someone actually

1504
00:59:24,289 --> 00:59:22,569
kind of you know weighed in on this if

1505
00:59:27,449 --> 00:59:24,299
we knew there was someone from another

1506
00:59:29,219 --> 00:59:27,459
place okay that it would defeat it would

1507
00:59:31,319 --> 00:59:29,229
be the end of all religions on earth and

1508
00:59:32,819 --> 00:59:31,329
in a way you know I can see that and

1509
00:59:35,009 --> 00:59:32,829
they thought there would be a threat to

1510
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:35,019
the foundations of the institutions that

1511
00:59:40,499 --> 00:59:38,169
you know run this planet but you know

1512
00:59:43,229 --> 00:59:40,509
really so I you know for that kind of

1513
00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:43,239
nebulous theory you're going to hold

1514
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:45,400
back what it would be the most important

1515
00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:46,650
information ever and

1516
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:48,900
mankind and you're gonna have thousands

1517
00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:50,610
and thousands and thousands of people in

1518
00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:53,160
on the conspiracy to do that it could

1519
00:59:58,130 --> 00:59:54,990
happen yeah kid

1520
01:00:01,370 --> 00:59:58,140
well someone just bent wait wait waited

1521
01:00:02,930 --> 01:00:01,380
hold that thought kid just banter chimes

1522
01:00:04,310 --> 01:00:02,940
in it says everything we've ever built

1523
01:00:07,070 --> 01:00:04,320
crashing and always will

1524
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:07,080
that's kind of that's not true we've

1525
01:00:10,070 --> 01:00:08,610
made it to the moon everything he had

1526
01:00:13,340 --> 01:00:10,080
about half the things they shoot demise

1527
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:13,350
fail but a lot of that is you know human

1528
01:00:15,350 --> 01:00:13,770
error

1529
01:00:17,660 --> 01:00:15,360
there was one they sent up there cost

1530
01:00:19,310 --> 01:00:17,670
billions of dollars and once again close

1531
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:19,320
to orbit they found out half it was done

1532
01:00:24,050 --> 01:00:20,880
in regular measurement half it was done

1533
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:24,060
in metrics how someone that was called

1534
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:25,650
the polar Lander how someone couldn't

1535
01:00:30,260 --> 01:00:28,530
figure that out before we spend all this

1536
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:30,270
money and shoot the thing to my's but

1537
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:31,530
that actually happened and there's been

1538
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:33,450
a number of Mars craft that just have

1539
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:35,010
disappeared there's no doubt about it

1540
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,930
good of you we have figured that out can

1541
01:00:43,790 --> 01:00:38,640
you involved it well I switched the

1542
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:43,800
blueprints is mischievous all right

1543
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:46,850
we're going back yep go ahead

1544
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:49,710
okay stay by we're gonna go commercial

1545
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:52,170
free for the second hour and honor max

1546
01:00:57,230 --> 01:00:54,450
brief return to Kate Jerry airwaves

1547
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:57,240
tonight so yeah we'll go in and erupt it

1548
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:00,480
in five four three

1549
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:05,130
you're welcome Baldy - what alright

1550
01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,930
everyone welcome back to the show I'm

1551
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:08,760
Martin Willis and I'm with Mack Maloney

1552
01:01:14,810 --> 01:01:11,850
one one and this a black eyed kid over

1553
01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:14,820
there behaving and hating himself so so

1554
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:17,430
far that's pretty good still early yeah

1555
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:18,480
that's true that's true

1556
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:20,520
hey um so where do you want to go from

1557
01:01:27,230 --> 01:01:23,400
here we can pull up we can pull up on

1558
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:27,240
the show we can bring up the call number

1559
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:29,640
for people that want to come on or would

1560
01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:32,220
you rather give away books when we do

1561
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:34,260
the 10 questions because oh yeah right I

1562
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:35,910
forgot about that everyone like goodness

1563
01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:37,710
okay okay go ahead so what we do is

1564
01:01:40,610 --> 01:01:39,240
every week in the stat at about six

1565
01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:40,620
months ago where we had to fill some

1566
01:01:44,780 --> 01:01:42,540
time when we threw ten questions to one

1567
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:44,790
one and unbeknownst to us it became a

1568
01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:47,490
huge ratings hit probably get more email

1569
01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:49,740
fan mail about this than any other

1570
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:52,500
segment some crazy fan mail - well you

1571
01:01:57,150 --> 01:01:54,650
know as we found out today yes

1572
01:02:00,430 --> 01:01:57,160
[Laughter]

1573
01:02:02,050 --> 01:02:00,440
alright alright so who saw who's saying

1574
01:02:04,750 --> 01:02:02,060
the question so as it turns out it's

1575
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:04,760
going to be we had a special star from

1576
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:06,170
heaven joining us okay

1577
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:08,570
very famous Casey Kasem one one isn't

1578
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:10,070
going to be doing your 10 questions

1579
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:12,530
that's right that's right one one I came

1580
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:14,690
down because it's the special Christmas

1581
01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:17,690
edition okay question number ten please

1582
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:18,710
number ten

1583
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:21,680
have you ever undone your pants and

1584
01:02:29,290 --> 01:02:23,450
fallen asleep before leaving the

1585
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:29,300
Christmas dinner no it's not really

1586
01:02:39,220 --> 01:02:34,420
okay if I have my pants on and that's

1587
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:39,230
definitely I believe definitely one why

1588
01:02:43,150 --> 01:02:41,570
do you think it's weird that Shanta

1589
01:02:44,980 --> 01:02:43,160
knows who's been naughty and who's been

1590
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:44,990
nice none of those strange when you

1591
01:02:47,860 --> 01:02:46,310
think about it I think about it because

1592
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:47,870
he sees you when you're sleeping and he

1593
01:02:55,450 --> 01:02:49,610
sees you and you're awake does he see

1594
01:03:00,540 --> 01:02:55,460
you in the bathroom with that have you

1595
01:03:00,550 --> 01:03:06,270
how do you know okay

1596
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:09,010
have you ever looked at a Christmas card

1597
01:03:17,590 --> 01:03:15,770
and thought jeez Mary was hot I never

1598
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:17,600
vote being a religious man never really

1599
01:03:30,130 --> 01:03:24,170
looked at it in that way all right one

1600
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:30,140
when it was that Mary Magdalene there so

1601
01:03:35,350 --> 01:03:32,090
you're expecting guests for Christmas

1602
01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:35,360
you're serving a Christmas turkey you

1603
01:03:39,310 --> 01:03:37,160
finish cooking it but while you're out

1604
01:03:42,730 --> 01:03:39,320
of the room you're - hounds knock it to

1605
01:03:44,380 --> 01:03:42,740
the floor and eat half dachshunds would

1606
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:44,390
you serve the other half to your guests

1607
01:03:49,210 --> 01:03:46,160
and not tell them what happened I just

1608
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:49,220
rinse it off no problem what about the

1609
01:03:54,490 --> 01:03:52,130
teeth marks in that when you're done by

1610
01:03:56,350 --> 01:03:54,500
the force boy getting it a little dog

1611
01:03:59,950 --> 01:03:56,360
drool in my credit for cadet they found

1612
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:59,960
it it was done one why did you ask Santa

1613
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:01,520
to bring you a copy of Mac's

1614
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:04,400
best-selling book Mac Maloney's haunted

1615
01:04:09,970 --> 01:04:06,890
universe this Christmas and if so will

1616
01:04:12,250 --> 01:04:09,980
you read it before next Christmas

1617
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:12,260
I read it all the time he wrote the file

1618
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:15,050
with him I read the foreword yeah okay

1619
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:16,310
did you like the forward I like the

1620
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:17,570
forward where you say you'll never read

1621
01:04:22,780 --> 01:04:21,050
it he's a man true to his word yeah next

1622
01:04:24,010 --> 01:04:22,790
question please three years to get

1623
01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:24,020
through Keith Richards book oh by the

1624
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:24,950
way it's his birthday

1625
01:04:29,770 --> 01:04:27,290
oh yeah happy birthday every birthday

1626
01:04:32,020 --> 01:04:29,780
Keith this is his dedication okay

1627
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:32,030
have you ever reached inside an uncooked

1628
01:04:38,260 --> 01:04:35,810
turkey and fondled the giblets if you

1629
01:04:40,660 --> 01:04:38,270
call the manipulative between my fingers

1630
01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:40,670
fondling then maybe yes but I try to

1631
01:04:46,329 --> 01:04:43,990
avoid that let your real thin line

1632
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:46,339
that's a slippery slope but now these

1633
01:04:56,530 --> 01:04:54,050
days I go to your house 1 1 what's your

1634
01:04:59,170 --> 01:04:56,540
problem with Tiny Tim you have a problem

1635
01:05:00,820 --> 01:04:59,180
with the little kid what is it I'd like

1636
01:05:04,089 --> 01:05:00,830
him I like him a lot I want to invite

1637
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:04,099
him over for dinner ok you may not want

1638
01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:05,599
to go off the Dow Jones or into the

1639
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:08,990
turkey but who knows please 1 1 you're

1640
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:10,910
in Santa's workshop and center is out

1641
01:05:17,530 --> 01:05:13,970
delivering toys and mrs. Claus comes on

1642
01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:17,540
to you what do you do mrs. Claus came on

1643
01:05:21,579 --> 01:05:18,800
to you made a pass at you what would you

1644
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:21,589
do I would have to keep my distance

1645
01:05:24,940 --> 01:05:24,050
being loyal to Santa as I have been for

1646
01:05:28,660 --> 01:05:24,950
many many years

1647
01:05:31,930 --> 01:05:28,670
ok all right yes and finally 1 1 the

1648
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:31,940
last question did you ever post your GI

1649
01:05:40,089 --> 01:05:35,770
Joes and Barbies and x-rated positions

1650
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:40,099
yes or no no but I have my cannons at

1651
01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:41,920
them from time to time is that

1652
01:05:54,010 --> 01:05:49,910
subliminal is that there you go there's

1653
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:54,020
10 questions and we should what type of

1654
01:05:59,440 --> 01:05:55,810
meal did you say get you get from those

1655
01:06:01,089 --> 01:05:59,450
funny ones funny fan and in suggestions

1656
01:06:03,210 --> 01:06:01,099
for questions to some of the fan mail

1657
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:03,220
was battery operated too so I was

1658
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:05,570
alright when do we want to give away the

1659
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:07,130
books you want to get annoyed now if

1660
01:06:11,710 --> 01:06:08,810
there were anyone still listening yes

1661
01:06:12,130 --> 01:06:11,720
you in there alright so this is how it's

1662
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:12,140
gonna work

1663
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:14,210
write this number down if you don't see

1664
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:18,400
it up on the screen and it's 6:03 967

1665
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:21,530
403 Oh is a call-in number and the first

1666
01:06:23,790 --> 01:06:22,480
five

1667
01:06:27,030 --> 01:06:23,800
collars you have to course you have to

1668
01:06:28,859 --> 01:06:27,040
talk for a few minutes and tell us tell

1669
01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:28,869
us either a story or ask us a question

1670
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:31,030
either one when you call in here's

1671
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:32,410
here's how it's gonna go when you call

1672
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:34,810
in we're gonna write down your phone

1673
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:36,130
number we're not gonna give it out of

1674
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:37,960
course but just say your first name

1675
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:40,270
Mac's gonna give out his email address

1676
01:06:45,930 --> 01:06:42,790
so if you write an email to Mac with

1677
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:45,940
your phone number that you called in on

1678
01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:49,810
and also your first name you will get a

1679
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:52,630
free book of his new book haunted

1680
01:06:58,859 --> 01:06:55,330
universe with four done by one one

1681
01:07:00,510 --> 01:06:58,869
himself and that will come in the mail I

1682
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:00,520
can't tell you it's coming from his

1683
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:01,810
publisher whether it'll get there for

1684
01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:04,390
christmas or not but anyway so the

1685
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:07,600
numbers up and feel free to call in at

1686
01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:10,210
six oh three nine six seven four OH

1687
01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:12,609
three oh okay all right

1688
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:15,220
and in the meantime in the meantime what

1689
01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:16,810
happens if no one calls house did that's

1690
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:17,950
that's my question

1691
01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:20,170
yeah we'll just fake it and post editing

1692
01:07:26,550 --> 01:07:23,590
that's okay all right so the lines open

1693
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:26,560
anyone can call in it's like we have a

1694
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:28,270
caller oh you should have a call you

1695
01:07:32,460 --> 01:07:29,880
gotta add it to the call what you there

1696
01:07:36,380 --> 01:07:32,470
yes can you see how yeah that's not you

1697
01:07:38,609 --> 01:07:36,390
calling in is it okay you see the arrow

1698
01:07:41,310 --> 01:07:38,619
this should be an arrow I'm gonna come

1699
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:41,320
over there okay this is this exciting

1700
01:07:52,010 --> 01:07:45,730
kid what are you getting for Christmas

1701
01:07:58,590 --> 01:07:52,020
ticket what if you haven't won one again

1702
01:08:08,310 --> 01:07:58,600
we should go while the lines of jam

1703
01:08:17,370 --> 01:08:08,320
literally jammed no when you want to

1704
01:08:20,970 --> 01:08:17,380
hear on radio all right down there it's

1705
01:08:25,289 --> 01:08:20,980
down the bottom it's right there watch

1706
01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:25,299
ticky if you no no I just saw the X down

1707
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:27,790
above the add sign down the bottom if

1708
01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:31,210
you if you actually I'm out what happens

1709
01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:43,480
right there that's my contribution but

1710
01:08:55,380 --> 01:08:51,880
if you hit hit that right there don't do

1711
01:08:56,940 --> 01:08:55,390
that okay and is that switch when we

1712
01:09:06,470 --> 01:08:56,950
have mad any matters here for

1713
01:09:13,530 --> 01:09:08,849
but we had them but we had switch on

1714
01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:13,540
this no I wouldn't we yeah that's we

1715
01:09:17,339 --> 01:09:15,790
gonna the claw was out but if we had

1716
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:17,349
switcheroo on there then why can't we

1717
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:18,359
have these guys

1718
01:09:25,559 --> 01:09:23,409
standby collars yep so anyway is Matt

1719
01:09:27,390 --> 01:09:25,569
yeah I'm so sorry about that

1720
01:09:29,249 --> 01:09:27,400
collars do you know what I'm gonna take

1721
01:09:30,620 --> 01:09:29,259
this call over here okay see what

1722
01:09:35,999 --> 01:09:30,630
happens

1723
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:36,009
collar the ball it did not be right

1724
01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:41,789
all right I have to hang up on you I

1725
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:43,900
just making sure I'm not blanking out

1726
01:09:53,370 --> 01:09:46,000
the radio station here all right Kim

1727
01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:53,380
all right can we got your number this is

1728
01:09:58,350 --> 01:09:53,980
exciting

1729
01:10:01,470 --> 01:09:58,360
so Tim should write to me at the wing

1730
01:10:03,569 --> 01:10:01,480
man at Mac Maloney comm looks like a lot

1731
01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:03,579
of post editing in this one here wingman

1732
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:06,820
we used to it wingman at Mac Milani comm

1733
01:10:12,899 --> 01:10:11,170
fill out the email form and send us your

1734
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:12,909
rod you know name and address and stuff

1735
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,409
and we'll send you out a copy of Mac

1736
01:10:18,419 --> 01:10:16,480
Moniz mil tracks nos no what is it 1-1

1737
01:10:22,620 --> 01:10:18,429
macaronis haunted universe that noise

1738
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:22,630
haunting universe the cover thank you I

1739
01:10:26,729 --> 01:10:24,190
read it from cover to cover Lopez had

1740
01:10:28,049 --> 01:10:26,739
your name on so did we solve this

1741
01:10:30,510 --> 01:10:28,059
problem I think they have a caller on

1742
01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:30,520
the line oh we do have a column do we

1743
01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:31,420
have a caller on the line

1744
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:34,270
I think so call yeah there hi how you

1745
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:37,210
doing now is everyone okay what's your

1746
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:37,570
name

1747
01:10:42,209 --> 01:10:39,010
wait a minute did you do the plus sign

1748
01:10:43,589 --> 01:10:42,219
to add them how's that added so how we

1749
01:10:46,740 --> 01:10:43,599
have them on there and we didn't kick

1750
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:46,750
the radio station off no it only kicked

1751
01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:47,440
off switch

1752
01:10:56,609 --> 01:10:53,260
all right all right Tim no what's your

1753
01:11:01,319 --> 01:10:56,619
name bill our Christopher okay we're you

1754
01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:01,329
from cool what's the weather out yeah

1755
01:11:07,919 --> 01:11:04,150
yeah tonight oh the weather's beautiful

1756
01:11:09,450 --> 01:11:07,929
it was probably just under 70 this

1757
01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:09,460
afternoon and it's just going off a

1758
01:11:13,649 --> 01:11:11,320
little bit more now that's good lovely

1759
01:11:17,799 --> 01:11:13,659
yeah one one that's clear it is it was

1760
01:11:21,250 --> 01:11:17,809
like hi hi 24:25 here today

1761
01:11:23,260 --> 01:11:21,260
which I'm about to it was he it was 40

1762
01:11:24,819 --> 01:11:23,270
to 45 degrees here last Sunday and

1763
01:11:26,799 --> 01:11:24,829
people were down and the beats women

1764
01:11:30,339 --> 01:11:26,809
that's women but you know out the water

1765
01:11:32,379 --> 01:11:30,349
so anyway Wow so go ahead please would

1766
01:11:34,780 --> 01:11:32,389
you a question well I had a question

1767
01:11:36,819 --> 01:11:34,790
that you guys might think is not that

1768
01:11:39,729 --> 01:11:36,829
sophisticated of a question but it does

1769
01:11:41,169 --> 01:11:39,739
Dom he quite often when I think about ET

1770
01:11:46,330 --> 01:11:41,179
and USO and all that kind of stuff but

1771
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:46,340
what would be a logical reason for these

1772
01:11:51,850 --> 01:11:49,730
craft that people see to have lights

1773
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:51,860
right you know that met question of if

1774
01:11:54,879 --> 01:11:53,449
they're traveling so far why would they

1775
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:54,889
need lights and we're doing it for us

1776
01:11:58,799 --> 01:11:57,290
right is it some illusion is it

1777
01:12:00,669 --> 01:11:58,809
something about time and space

1778
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:00,679
flickering and we're seeing some weird

1779
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:02,690
artifacts that's worried that really

1780
01:12:05,919 --> 01:12:04,400
like headlight that's a great question

1781
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:05,929
because we did a show on the coin

1782
01:12:10,180 --> 01:12:07,610
incident which happened in the mid

1783
01:12:12,250 --> 01:12:10,190
seventies where these ash National Guard

1784
01:12:13,839 --> 01:12:12,260
men were on a helicopter Huey helicopter

1785
01:12:16,299 --> 01:12:13,849
and going from like Cleveland to some

1786
01:12:18,490 --> 01:12:16,309
other place in Ohio at night and this

1787
01:12:21,330 --> 01:12:18,500
huge UFO came up and back of them okay

1788
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:21,340
we did knock the radio station off them

1789
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:23,679
yep we knocked it off

1790
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:28,250
yep no no we have we have to we have to

1791
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:30,290
say goodbye to the caller sorry alright

1792
01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:33,710
sorry caller oh alright sorry Tim do we

1793
01:12:39,819 --> 01:12:37,190
get your info I will will address the

1794
01:12:44,379 --> 01:12:39,829
question though as we as we keep going

1795
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:44,389
so what we did is we we took him and

1796
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:47,360
pushed everyone else off you have to do

1797
01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:49,489
the you has to do the join or you can't

1798
01:12:58,260 --> 01:12:54,320
do it otherwise it just yeah I have to

1799
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:06,220
alright so he's uh he's not on race go

1800
01:13:11,589 --> 01:13:09,530
ahead and chime in if you hear us I hear

1801
01:13:13,390 --> 01:13:11,599
you okay good alright sorry about that I

1802
01:13:15,879 --> 01:13:13,400
I wasn't able to see what they were

1803
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:15,889
doing on skype and they basically it

1804
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,290
just puts you on hold and sorry about

1805
01:13:26,410 --> 01:13:20,960
that too your your radio listeners over

1806
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:26,420
there alright so we're not we're not

1807
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:37,450
it's okay with you all right this is for

1808
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:44,830
really hesitant to do this to give out

1809
01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:50,330
my own number and put on speakerphone if

1810
01:13:58,180 --> 01:13:53,800
you have a radio station number okay and

1811
01:13:59,680 --> 01:13:58,190
does that actually call into the alright

1812
01:14:01,420 --> 01:13:59,690
alright we'll get that straightened out

1813
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:01,430
and meanwhile we're gonna move along

1814
01:14:05,770 --> 01:14:02,930
baby but we're gonna have a new number

1815
01:14:08,590 --> 01:14:05,780
come up so don't call the number you

1816
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:08,600
were calling there will be coming up

1817
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:12,790
with something else in just a minute and

1818
01:14:20,670 --> 01:14:16,880
so looks like just you and me black eye

1819
01:14:24,270 --> 01:14:20,680
kid everyone else is kind of a magician

1820
01:14:31,740 --> 01:14:24,280
wait a minute how did you get that low

1821
01:14:41,050 --> 01:14:39,190
my black eyed kid pee buddy stage where

1822
01:14:43,740 --> 01:14:41,060
I come in in this conversation well I

1823
01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:43,750
was he cleared his throat and it was it

1824
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:45,950
yeah Wow yeah

1825
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:48,080
so we're I'm a queer we're gonna have a

1826
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:49,790
new number come up it's actually the

1827
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,890
station number it is that guy still on

1828
01:14:55,210 --> 01:14:53,360
because he had agree all we've had we

1829
01:14:57,460 --> 01:14:55,220
had to but let's address the question

1830
01:14:59,380 --> 01:14:57,470
answer question was in in this coin

1831
01:15:08,550 --> 01:14:59,390
incident they saw this huge UFO came up

1832
01:15:14,740 --> 01:15:11,680
and and they saw lights they saw green

1833
01:15:16,180 --> 01:15:14,750
and amber and red lights and not only

1834
01:15:18,190 --> 01:15:16,190
did they see them but there were people

1835
01:15:20,860 --> 01:15:18,200
on the ground who actually saw them and

1836
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:20,870
this thing kind of chased this Huey

1837
01:15:26,770 --> 01:15:23,810
helicopter for a good you know three or

1838
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:26,780
four minutes and in a head lights on it

1839
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,310
and we would sit and we said why would

1840
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:30,080
you have lights on a UFO

1841
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:33,440
what would a UFO need light saw yeah

1842
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:35,450
I've always wondered that myself I

1843
01:15:38,140 --> 01:15:36,650
thought that's a really now they were

1844
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:38,150
they were different than navigation

1845
01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:40,400
lights because Cobra did this special

1846
01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:41,380
for us

1847
01:15:49,020 --> 01:15:45,100
and coat and navigation lights green and

1848
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:49,030
red on passenger planes on civilian

1849
01:15:53,970 --> 01:15:51,610
planes and then I think that it's green

1850
01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:53,980
red and a white light on military planes

1851
01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:55,900
but there is some kind of difference ok

1852
01:16:01,200 --> 01:15:58,890
and these these these lights were not

1853
01:16:03,090 --> 01:16:01,210
roughly light so that's a really good

1854
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:03,100
question that's the that's the kind of

1855
01:16:06,810 --> 01:16:04,330
thing that you look into you know

1856
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:06,820
instead of looking into forever you know

1857
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:09,280
50,000 aliens in Dulce Mountain and

1858
01:16:12,750 --> 01:16:11,350
Roswell and all this stuff look into

1859
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:12,760
something like that why do you oppose

1860
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:15,310
have lights and you would and you'll be

1861
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:17,050
fussy where they're going obviously yeah

1862
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:18,250
I know but that's what I mean that's

1863
01:16:21,090 --> 01:16:19,360
what we're saying but why would they

1864
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:21,100
need them you know but they need them

1865
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:22,450
for some reason they're there for some

1866
01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:24,490
reason so trying to figure out that and

1867
01:16:28,140 --> 01:16:26,620
you will be that much further along the

1868
01:16:30,180 --> 01:16:28,150
line I figuring out what's going on with

1869
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:30,190
UFOs and well there could be you know

1870
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:31,930
one of the answers to that is they want

1871
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:34,510
to be seen yeah you know that's yes they

1872
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:35,920
do want to be seen there's no double all

1873
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:37,570
right we're gonna turn this number may

1874
01:16:44,730 --> 01:16:41,770
work alright okay so we can only accept

1875
01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:44,740
one call at the time it's up on YouTube

1876
01:16:49,410 --> 01:16:46,870
now that phone number you're welcome to

1877
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:49,420
call in and by the way last caller I do

1878
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:51,700
want to thank you for your call and the

1879
01:16:56,910 --> 01:16:53,590
number up on the screen for over those

1880
01:17:01,250 --> 01:16:56,920
those over you those of you over her at

1881
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:01,260
kg are a radio is 603 five eight three

1882
01:17:06,260 --> 01:17:04,450
four seven six seven I'll say it one

1883
01:17:11,730 --> 01:17:06,270
more time and it's for this show only

1884
01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:11,740
six zero three five eight three four

1885
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:14,740
seven six seven so you're welcome to

1886
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:16,570
call in we had people trying to call

1887
01:17:21,690 --> 01:17:17,950
them we can only take one caller at a

1888
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:21,700
time and you'll see it come up over

1889
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:25,030
there right yeah yeah okay all right so

1890
01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:29,050
so good Colin what's that so get calling

1891
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:32,200
yeah get calling we have how many more

1892
01:17:36,150 --> 01:17:34,450
books to give away four more books Mac

1893
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:36,160
Maloney's haunted universe it's about

1894
01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:38,650
four or three three I got three okay

1895
01:17:49,449 --> 01:17:42,070
yeah okay you got two and you know it's

1896
01:17:54,699 --> 01:17:49,459
about 300 really strange stories okay

1897
01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:54,709
however you do get a call coming all

1898
01:18:00,929 --> 01:17:56,239
right we have some Conant Larry is

1899
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:03,879
all right hey Larry how you doing this

1900
01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:06,170
is Mack okay good it's like a real radio

1901
01:18:10,359 --> 01:18:08,329
station yep I love it yeah Martin is

1902
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:10,369
here's what is a real radio station I'm

1903
01:18:17,549 --> 01:18:12,530
watching you all on YouTube oh great

1904
01:18:20,469 --> 01:18:17,559
okay okay so um we were you in Missouri

1905
01:18:22,689 --> 01:18:20,479
Manchester Missouri it was County is it

1906
01:18:24,910 --> 01:18:22,699
snowed there yet this winter no well

1907
01:18:30,060 --> 01:18:24,920
yeah it's not here during season but

1908
01:18:36,759 --> 01:18:31,779
it's heading our way

1909
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:36,769
but not that warm Oh mid 40s yeah so

1910
01:18:44,770 --> 01:18:40,610
what you want to ask us a question yes I

1911
01:18:48,339 --> 01:18:44,780
have been a UFO fanatics since I was 15

1912
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:48,349
I'm 66 I'll never forget reading Frank

1913
01:18:54,189 --> 01:18:51,650
Edwards book UFO serious business

1914
01:18:55,209 --> 01:18:54,199
yep I used to get up on my parents house

1915
01:18:57,850 --> 01:18:55,219
on the roof

1916
01:19:00,669 --> 01:18:57,860
sit up there at night and look at the

1917
01:19:05,949 --> 01:19:00,679
Stars waiting for a UFO to come by I've

1918
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:09,399
have you seen when no I'd never seen one

1919
01:19:15,129 --> 01:19:12,409
so what what is gonna happen I mean how

1920
01:19:17,229 --> 01:19:15,139
long do we all have to wait my dad said

1921
01:19:22,509 --> 01:19:17,239
that he's not gonna die

1922
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:22,519
until he sees 198 Wow Wow I'm going I'll

1923
01:19:25,779 --> 01:19:24,530
just say two things real quick first of

1924
01:19:27,580 --> 01:19:25,789
all I don't think there are certain

1925
01:19:29,469 --> 01:19:27,590
people who see UFOs and certain people

1926
01:19:32,109 --> 01:19:29,479
who'll never see one I will never see

1927
01:19:34,540 --> 01:19:32,119
one as a model people had seen a lot of

1928
01:19:35,890 --> 01:19:34,550
them right and believably we had someone

1929
01:19:37,839 --> 01:19:35,900
on last week who said that there's a

1930
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:37,849
certain type of personality of people

1931
01:19:43,029 --> 01:19:41,360
who basically hyper personality who take

1932
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:43,039
in account everything in their lives

1933
01:19:47,109 --> 01:19:45,650
they see more UFOs and the rest of us

1934
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:47,119
who've just kind of groove along yeah

1935
01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:48,530
well we talked about race Stanford

1936
01:19:52,959 --> 01:19:50,510
earlier he's he's he won't tell me

1937
01:19:56,410 --> 01:19:52,969
exactly how many is seen but he's filmed

1938
01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:56,420
more than you know a whole county has

1939
01:20:01,129 --> 01:19:58,610
seen there are definitely people who I

1940
01:20:04,219 --> 01:20:01,139
think who are able to see them and

1941
01:20:06,589 --> 01:20:04,229
and I'm like you I've I'm always looking

1942
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:06,599
for UFOs always I've always wanted yeah

1943
01:20:10,669 --> 01:20:08,249
I want to see one I wanted to see what

1944
01:20:12,799 --> 01:20:10,679
all this is about but deep down I feel

1945
01:20:15,169 --> 01:20:12,809
like every time I take the dachshunds

1946
01:20:16,669 --> 01:20:15,179
out for their nightly constitutional I

1947
01:20:18,109 --> 01:20:16,679
look up in the sky because I don't have

1948
01:20:19,969 --> 01:20:18,119
a I don't have any light pollution

1949
01:20:22,729 --> 01:20:19,979
anywhere in the neighborhood so I'm

1950
01:20:23,870 --> 01:20:22,739
moving up to Rockland Maine and it's

1951
01:20:26,299 --> 01:20:23,880
very nice yeah

1952
01:20:27,859 --> 01:20:26,309
crystal clear you see the Milky Way so

1953
01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:27,869
we don't want you to fall off the roof

1954
01:20:33,020 --> 01:20:30,150
there Larry but hats off to you for

1955
01:20:35,290 --> 01:20:33,030
continuing that I don't I don't do that

1956
01:20:38,629 --> 01:20:35,300
anymore maybe I need to go out and buy a

1957
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:38,639
dark sound there you go well one one

1958
01:20:44,839 --> 01:20:41,360
might sell you one his what do you say

1959
01:20:47,660 --> 01:20:44,849
good so in what did your father

1960
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:47,670
interested in them because he's you must

1961
01:20:53,719 --> 01:20:48,960
have been right in the ground floor of

1962
01:20:59,330 --> 01:20:53,729
your phones you know I always talk to

1963
01:21:00,919 --> 01:20:59,340
him about it and he's just waiting see

1964
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:00,929
what I don't understand is and we were

1965
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:02,729
talking about this earlier is you know

1966
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:05,369
when they released the UFO video was

1967
01:21:09,379 --> 01:21:07,440
about a year ago now right yeah pilot

1968
01:21:11,140 --> 01:21:09,389
from New Hampshire right and you can see

1969
01:21:13,549 --> 01:21:11,150
you know I hate to use this over word

1970
01:21:15,259 --> 01:21:13,559
overuse word these days but passion you

1971
01:21:17,719 --> 01:21:15,269
can see how passion and Larry is and his

1972
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:17,729
father is okay why wouldn't that story

1973
01:21:22,759 --> 01:21:20,639
resonate with everybody like that but it

1974
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:22,769
just went away and that if it drives me

1975
01:21:26,810 --> 01:21:24,449
nuts when that happen well it didn't it

1976
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:26,820
didn't there were there were a hundred

1977
01:21:33,589 --> 01:21:30,239
and thirty television broadcasts about

1978
01:21:35,540 --> 01:21:33,599
that okay so it it kind of went viral

1979
01:21:38,270 --> 01:21:35,550
and believe it or not Fox of all people

1980
01:21:41,660 --> 01:21:38,280
kept it alive they believed it yep and

1981
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:41,670
so but it did go away they do yeah but

1982
01:21:46,189 --> 01:21:44,729
what it did do I think sort of planted a

1983
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,199
seed because I've talked a lot of people

1984
01:21:50,689 --> 01:21:48,719
outside of the UFO field that say yeah I

1985
01:21:52,189 --> 01:21:50,699
did see that and you know I guess there

1986
01:21:54,109 --> 01:21:52,199
is something to it well you know when

1987
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:54,119
Cobra will say if he was on he would say

1988
01:21:59,120 --> 01:21:56,610
well this is how they do these things

1989
01:22:01,969 --> 01:21:59,130
you know that they let information kind

1990
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:01,979
of dribble out and get us used to you

1991
01:22:05,779 --> 01:22:03,570
know what's going on and I hate to say

1992
01:22:07,279 --> 01:22:05,789
it but that's how they kind of got us in

1993
01:22:08,450 --> 01:22:07,289
World War two not that I'm saying that

1994
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:08,460
we shouldn't have been there but you

1995
01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:09,690
know there was they were

1996
01:22:14,180 --> 01:22:12,420
you know the popular you know opinion

1997
01:22:16,010 --> 01:22:14,190
was against going into UI fallen let's

1998
01:22:18,260 --> 01:22:16,020
say the imeem into World War two in the

1999
01:22:20,090 --> 01:22:18,270
late thirties right right and then we

2000
01:22:21,620 --> 01:22:20,100
kind of got conditioned to it and so on

2001
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:21,630
and so forth so they do use these

2002
01:22:25,580 --> 01:22:24,090
methods to kind of sway the way that

2003
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:25,590
people think in this country and

2004
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:27,510
certainly these days more so than way

2005
01:22:31,610 --> 01:22:29,610
back then that's why you don't

2006
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:31,620
understand I mean 190 stories that's

2007
01:22:35,630 --> 01:22:33,449
that sounds like a lot but that's like

2008
01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:35,640
three days to CNN and what if the UFO

2009
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:37,380
went over right after you went in the

2010
01:22:43,490 --> 01:22:40,560
house sorry Larry

2011
01:22:46,250 --> 01:22:43,500
sorry oh well you know I didn't see the

2012
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:46,260
video in New Hampshire I'm gonna have to

2013
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:48,030
check that out with New Hampshire no

2014
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:49,980
just when you no no no we're talking

2015
01:22:58,300 --> 01:22:52,800
about you can just go on Google and and

2016
01:23:03,740 --> 01:22:58,310
put in gimbal UFO like a gimballed

2017
01:23:06,260 --> 01:23:03,750
Lantern Gi Gi mbem I think it's b al b

2018
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:06,270
IL yeah you'll see it it's it's really

2019
01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:09,449
it's very interesting to see yeah okay

2020
01:23:15,470 --> 01:23:12,540
I'll check it out hey can I get a Mac

2021
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:15,480
you got it you're on you gave out his

2022
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:18,449
email address okay say one more time

2023
01:23:25,130 --> 01:23:22,290
just write to me at wing man at Mac

2024
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:25,140
Maloney calm and you'll see our email

2025
01:23:33,170 --> 01:23:28,530
form there and just send me your mailing

2026
01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:33,180
address and we'll ya just also put your

2027
01:23:39,380 --> 01:23:34,590
phone number in it so we can terrify to

2028
01:23:42,709 --> 01:23:39,390
write great okay your mailing address

2029
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:42,719
will do well do okay Merry Christmas

2030
01:23:47,540 --> 01:23:44,850
pretty New Year's and I love the show

2031
01:23:50,170 --> 01:23:47,550
especially both you guys Martin and Mac

2032
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:50,180
and and why I wanted everybody alright

2033
01:23:56,209 --> 01:23:54,570
so your father we said alone yes tell

2034
01:24:01,370 --> 01:23:56,219
him to keep his eyes to the sky all

2035
01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:01,380
right I wouldn't do that line is open

2036
01:24:04,939 --> 01:24:03,060
oh that's up on the screen if you're

2037
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:04,949
over at kgr a radio it's six oh three

2038
01:24:11,330 --> 01:24:08,910
five eight three four seven six seven we

2039
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:11,340
have another caller on the line all

2040
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:13,890
right Eric from Independence Missouri

2041
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:16,410
that's where you don't wait

2042
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:18,210
hey Eric how you doing this is Matt

2043
01:24:23,540 --> 01:24:20,850
we're big in Missouri tonight

2044
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:23,550
oh yeah that's one one and montón is

2045
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:25,530
here welcome to the show

2046
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:32,730
like I kid is here oh wow

2047
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:33,960
don't let the owner hear you say that

2048
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:37,920
he'll raise the ridge you have a

2049
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:41,730
question for any of our us thank you

2050
01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:45,600
I do have a question for one 101 what do

2051
01:24:58,820 --> 01:24:56,880
you see the Christmas play oh you know

2052
01:25:00,830 --> 01:24:58,830
what that's a wicked good question

2053
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:00,840
because I say wicked here in this part

2054
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:02,850
of the country by the way wasn't

2055
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:04,290
motoring license when I believed in

2056
01:25:13,130 --> 01:25:06,330
Santa Claus until I was like about 25

2057
01:25:16,010 --> 01:25:13,140
dad I believe that so I was talking

2058
01:25:18,530 --> 01:25:16,020
about that to my wife just just today

2059
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:18,540
and I remember the big deal about

2060
01:25:27,290 --> 01:25:23,880
Christmas was my electric trains with my

2061
01:25:28,430 --> 01:25:27,300
toenails yeah I had both wow I was the

2062
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:28,440
only child for eight years

2063
01:25:38,270 --> 01:25:31,920
okay I like Santa

2064
01:25:39,770 --> 01:25:38,280
spent a lot of time the first thing I

2065
01:25:43,130 --> 01:25:39,780
remember getting from Santa though may

2066
01:25:46,460 --> 01:25:43,140
have been a Tonka truck Tom Canty and it

2067
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:46,470
was a Allied Van Lines reproduction

2068
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:49,770
Tonka truck go and say well what's the

2069
01:25:52,430 --> 01:25:51,210
connection with allied Van Lines but

2070
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:52,440
there's because there was an allied Van

2071
01:25:55,580 --> 01:25:54,090
Lines in my neighborhood there you know

2072
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:55,590
and it just so happened that talk of

2073
01:26:02,300 --> 01:25:58,800
trucks did a a a really good size you

2074
01:26:05,180 --> 01:26:02,310
know like a three foot long coming the

2075
01:26:07,550 --> 01:26:05,190
cabinet in the box

2076
01:26:09,620 --> 01:26:07,560
wow it's a walk down memory lane right

2077
01:26:09,980 --> 01:26:09,630
with him but my electric trains I don't

2078
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:09,990
know

2079
01:26:16,970 --> 01:26:13,320
Santa set them up and everything Wow see

2080
01:26:20,260 --> 01:26:16,980
you know all I do is crank that

2081
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:20,270
transformer and I have pictures of this

2082
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:22,710
which I don't want to put on my facebook

2083
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:24,210
because it kind of bizarre but in my

2084
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:26,490
footie pajamas

2085
01:26:31,340 --> 01:26:29,280
enjoying those trains at ease

2086
01:26:34,130 --> 01:26:31,350
you had food you know if he still has I

2087
01:26:34,370 --> 01:26:34,140
had photo album is Tom Brady footie but

2088
01:26:37,419 --> 01:26:34,380
now

2089
01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:37,429
oh my god oh we don't want to talk about

2090
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:39,870
it question thanks for that question

2091
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:41,610
yeah that's alright and I suppose you

2092
01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:45,210
want a book maybe maybe maybe not

2093
01:26:51,379 --> 01:26:47,880
all right I just write to just drop me

2094
01:26:56,570 --> 01:26:51,389
an email at UM wing me in at Mack Mamoni

2095
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,580
calm okay in your mailing address okay

2096
01:27:00,560 --> 01:26:58,800
because it's funny I can send me a email

2097
01:27:02,510 --> 01:27:00,570
address and I got a mail the book to

2098
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:02,520
them so we need the postal address and

2099
01:27:06,979 --> 01:27:05,130
we'll I have the Three Stooges autograph

2100
01:27:10,729 --> 01:27:06,989
it for you and we'll send it out to you

2101
01:27:12,169 --> 01:27:10,739
okay okay thanks thanks for calling you

2102
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:12,179
know what I just realized I got free

2103
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:17,780
great question when I was at when I was

2104
01:27:20,810 --> 01:27:19,650
a little kid I just pulled it up on the

2105
01:27:22,669 --> 01:27:20,820
screen because I was trying to figure

2106
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:22,679
out what it was because it used a

2107
01:27:26,750 --> 01:27:24,570
gyroscope and it was called it was a

2108
01:27:28,669 --> 01:27:26,760
Marx mystery spaceship cool

2109
01:27:30,860 --> 01:27:28,679
yeah when and you I remember tying a

2110
01:27:33,050 --> 01:27:30,870
string around and blowing it yeah and it

2111
01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:33,060
could just sit and just like that spin I

2112
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:35,550
actually had a spaceship UFO looking

2113
01:27:38,810 --> 01:27:37,110
thing when I was why is that what did

2114
01:27:42,410 --> 01:27:38,820
you uh is that the bug the video

2115
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:42,420
it wasn't no matter of fact uh I forgot

2116
01:27:45,860 --> 01:27:44,010
about that until it you just mentioned a

2117
01:27:51,729 --> 01:27:45,870
kid what was your first gift from Siena

2118
01:27:55,790 --> 01:27:53,600
okay all right

2119
01:27:56,899 --> 01:27:55,800
is he use that to what you can say

2120
01:27:59,870 --> 01:27:56,909
what's the name what's the punchline

2121
01:28:02,750 --> 01:27:59,880
cookie victims thing yeah I stack them

2122
01:28:06,350 --> 01:28:02,760
in a pyramid is this is this like clean

2123
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,360
and clean coal sure right from this

2124
01:28:11,149 --> 01:28:08,400
beautiful wing beautiful coal is it now

2125
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:11,159
that the best call around here yeah yep

2126
01:28:16,879 --> 01:28:14,489
yeah okay kid thanks it's got that wow

2127
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:16,889
alright so the lines open if anyone else

2128
01:28:21,050 --> 01:28:18,480
what do we have a book left one book

2129
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:21,060
left one door left one book left then

2130
01:28:26,810 --> 01:28:25,290
we're gonna call commander Cobra don't

2131
01:28:28,370 --> 01:28:26,820
be fun yeah we should mention that you

2132
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:28,380
know we've been doing a book as wafer

2133
01:28:33,140 --> 01:28:31,110
commander signed off was signed off yeah

2134
01:28:35,930 --> 01:28:33,150
you signed off of it for the 90s he's on

2135
01:28:38,030 --> 01:28:35,940
government oh he really is like he's out

2136
01:28:39,649 --> 01:28:38,040
Lee different time zone and oh I'm sorry

2137
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:39,659
yeah we should talk to him earlier he

2138
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:43,290
texted me a while ago in City Hall but

2139
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:44,489
we should say that you know we're in the

2140
01:28:48,140 --> 01:28:45,570
middle of the book giveaway

2141
01:28:49,879 --> 01:28:48,150
and that we've been running on the show

2142
01:28:51,169 --> 01:28:49,889
for the past month and we usually give

2143
01:28:52,129 --> 01:28:51,179
out a secret word and lots of people

2144
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:52,139
have been you know writing to me with

2145
01:28:55,250 --> 01:28:53,520
the secret word we should say that we're

2146
01:28:57,859 --> 01:28:55,260
gonna continue that when we come back in

2147
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,869
January because that would make that

2148
01:29:01,700 --> 01:28:59,280
would make more sense and not confuse

2149
01:29:05,540 --> 01:29:01,710
the situation anything any way more than

2150
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:05,550
it is okay so we have a line open if

2151
01:29:08,780 --> 01:29:07,440
anyone wants to call in even if you

2152
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,790
don't want a book and you want to call

2153
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:10,320
in that line it's really cool too maybe

2154
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:11,730
one of our wives will call in or

2155
01:29:18,410 --> 01:29:17,040
something yeah yeah yeah and we in it

2156
01:29:20,060 --> 01:29:18,420
once again just going back to that guy's

2157
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:20,070
question I can't get it out of my head

2158
01:29:24,740 --> 01:29:21,840
the coin incident where the flying

2159
01:29:27,140 --> 01:29:24,750
saucer chased this Huey helicopter so he

2160
01:29:28,970 --> 01:29:27,150
had four MN in this helicopter they're

2161
01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:28,980
great witnesses but and they'd be

2162
01:29:33,500 --> 01:29:30,750
talking about the coin yes the coin

2163
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:33,510
incident yeah 70 and and they in and

2164
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:35,250
they you know describe these flashing

2165
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:37,110
lights right yes well people on the

2166
01:29:41,689 --> 01:29:39,810
ground very very few UFO you know

2167
01:29:43,370 --> 01:29:41,699
sightings of this caliber have actual

2168
01:29:45,410 --> 01:29:43,380
people in different geographical

2169
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:45,420
locations seeing the same thing but they

2170
01:29:49,459 --> 01:29:47,040
did see him in fact they were award and

2171
01:29:50,569 --> 01:29:49,469
some kind of an award for best story of

2172
01:29:53,660 --> 01:29:50,579
the year by the National Enquirer

2173
01:29:56,270 --> 01:29:53,670
because they they corroborated exactly

2174
01:29:58,250 --> 01:29:56,280
what the people in the we were see

2175
01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:58,260
people who haven't heard that particular

2176
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,480
story the thing actually pulled the

2177
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:02,639
helicopter up I moved right no the whole

2178
01:30:05,870 --> 01:30:04,560
details of that yep yep go ahead and

2179
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,880
tell him just maybe a person hasn't

2180
01:30:08,540 --> 01:30:07,199
heard that one they were around they

2181
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:08,550
were just ferrying that there were

2182
01:30:13,310 --> 01:30:11,760
national God Airmen and I mean national

2183
01:30:14,660 --> 01:30:13,320
gun and there in that Huey helicopter

2184
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:14,670
which everyone knows what they look like

2185
01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:16,770
because they're very what's the word

2186
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:20,960
ubiquitous they're ubiquitous everywhere

2187
01:30:25,010 --> 01:30:23,489
1970 and they long from Cleveland to

2188
01:30:26,089 --> 01:30:25,020
another airbase off from another Rio

2189
01:30:28,819 --> 01:30:26,099
base to Cleveland they were just

2190
01:30:30,589 --> 01:30:28,829
basically moving this helicopter and one

2191
01:30:31,939 --> 01:30:30,599
of the guys in the back sees these

2192
01:30:33,649 --> 01:30:31,949
lights these bright lights coming

2193
01:30:35,930 --> 01:30:33,659
towards them now they were near another

2194
01:30:38,510 --> 01:30:35,940
military base and they thought that it

2195
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:38,520
was one of these f-100 Super Sabres that

2196
01:30:42,589 --> 01:30:39,840
were going to crash into the helicopter

2197
01:30:45,140 --> 01:30:42,599
so they hit the panic button let's say

2198
01:30:47,270 --> 01:30:45,150
the emergency button in the in the the

2199
01:30:49,069 --> 01:30:47,280
pilot was smoking a cigarette at the

2200
01:30:51,649 --> 01:30:49,079
time see if you could imagine how come

2201
01:30:53,300 --> 01:30:51,659
these people were he put it into a put

2202
01:30:54,649 --> 01:30:53,310
the helicopter into a steep dive because

2203
01:30:56,419 --> 01:30:54,659
he thinks he's gonna get hit

2204
01:30:58,729 --> 01:30:56,429
yeah by this jet fighter and then when

2205
01:30:59,570 --> 01:30:58,739
they when they kind of recovered is this

2206
01:31:01,610 --> 01:30:59,580
thing flying

2207
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:01,620
right beside them and pulled them up

2208
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:05,010
he's apparently he's trying to make the

2209
01:31:08,570 --> 01:31:07,050
helicopter go down I'll stay level and

2210
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:08,580
it did have some kind of aerodynamic

2211
01:31:12,620 --> 01:31:11,370
effect on it and everyone saw it they

2212
01:31:15,230 --> 01:31:12,630
saw the blinking lights and they were

2213
01:31:17,090 --> 01:31:15,240
able to give the locations on the UFO of

2214
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:17,100
the blinking lights and then Bowman took

2215
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:19,650
off in a flash but the fact that this

2216
01:31:23,180 --> 01:31:21,330
mother and these bunch of kids who

2217
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:23,190
coming back from a swimming hole or

2218
01:31:27,860 --> 01:31:25,410
something you know saw this and and

2219
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:27,870
corroborated the time and the sequence

2220
01:31:31,580 --> 01:31:29,520
of lights flashing and stuff and that

2221
01:31:34,820 --> 01:31:31,590
the thing took off in a you know in a

2222
01:31:36,380 --> 01:31:34,830
second that's that's that's a great UFO

2223
01:31:38,540 --> 01:31:36,390
case you know what I mean it has like

2224
01:31:40,610 --> 01:31:38,550
close more evidence than 90% of the

2225
01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:40,620
stuff we hear I'm a friend of a Lee

2226
01:31:44,420 --> 01:31:42,510
Spiegel I don't know if you ever know

2227
01:31:45,710 --> 01:31:44,430
laughing tomorrow right right he's no

2228
01:31:48,290 --> 01:31:45,720
longer with him but he's actually helped

2229
01:31:49,190 --> 01:31:48,300
most James Fox a movie which is actually

2230
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:49,200
gonna be coming out

2231
01:31:52,940 --> 01:31:50,610
oh good really soon it's gonna be a

2232
01:31:56,270 --> 01:31:52,950
great movie good but anyway he

2233
01:31:58,760 --> 01:31:56,280
interviewed coin you know personally not

2234
01:32:00,920 --> 01:31:58,770
real long after that happened yeah and

2235
01:32:02,630 --> 01:32:00,930
actually he actually has the original

2236
01:32:05,990 --> 01:32:02,640
interview that he's actually selling on

2237
01:32:08,630 --> 01:32:06,000
I think on tape along with many other

2238
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:08,640
really great interviews you know why

2239
01:32:12,340 --> 01:32:10,290
would this coin guy he's a lieutenant

2240
01:32:16,220 --> 01:32:12,350
colonel in the National Guard

2241
01:32:18,530 --> 01:32:16,230
he has no there's no upside for him

2242
01:32:20,780 --> 01:32:18,540
other than the fact and you know his his

2243
01:32:22,910 --> 01:32:20,790
name's out there in public there's no

2244
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:22,920
website for him to report this if it was

2245
01:32:27,740 --> 01:32:25,110
a hoax you know so it must happen right

2246
01:32:31,550 --> 01:32:27,750
kid this happened in nineteen thank you

2247
01:32:32,780 --> 01:32:31,560
1970 and it was in Mansfield Ohio and it

2248
01:32:35,390 --> 01:32:32,790
was 11 o'clock at night when that

2249
01:32:38,660 --> 01:32:35,400
happened yeah and so that that is one of

2250
01:32:41,060 --> 01:32:38,670
the really interesting cases again

2251
01:32:43,970 --> 01:32:41,070
militaries involved they were involved

2252
01:32:47,210 --> 01:32:43,980
yeah they were involved in in in the in

2253
01:32:49,490 --> 01:32:47,220
an overwhelming percentage of cases so

2254
01:32:51,740 --> 01:32:49,500
why was he able to talk about this and

2255
01:32:53,390 --> 01:32:51,750
not other people that have encounters I

2256
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:53,400
think it's probably because they were in

2257
01:32:56,540 --> 01:32:55,080
national gazmin and they weren't regular

2258
01:32:58,100 --> 01:32:56,550
military nice the only thing I can think

2259
01:33:00,620 --> 01:32:58,110
of and then they had on the ground

2260
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:00,630
witnesses civilian witness yes - yeah

2261
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:04,290
yeah another aspect who's there it's

2262
01:33:09,470 --> 01:33:06,410
whichis on the line with us

2263
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:09,480
hey are you calling for a book never

2264
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:12,170
left I don't know I've been on yeah

2265
01:33:17,410 --> 01:33:14,960
it was the contact okay but just just

2266
01:33:19,300 --> 01:33:17,420
quickly some of the guys afterwards they

2267
01:33:20,830 --> 01:33:19,310
started having very strange dreams and

2268
01:33:22,959 --> 01:33:20,840
they were even having out-of-body

2269
01:33:24,850 --> 01:33:22,969
experiences well these are guys that had

2270
01:33:26,890 --> 01:33:24,860
experienced any kind of psychic

2271
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:26,900
phenomena or anything like that prior to

2272
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:29,120
the coin helicopter incident that

2273
01:33:32,020 --> 01:33:30,770
happens to a lot of people who don't

2274
01:33:34,180 --> 01:33:32,030
have really good sightings and that's

2275
01:33:35,860 --> 01:33:34,190
right you look at the allagash incident

2276
01:33:38,229 --> 01:33:35,870
all those guys had terrible dreams yeah

2277
01:33:39,490 --> 01:33:38,239
and why that happens it's just like one

2278
01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:39,500
more you know piece that we don't

2279
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:41,120
understand about this but it's something

2280
01:33:48,010 --> 01:33:44,420
that happens a lot right you were

2281
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:48,020
talking earlier switchblade what a name

2282
01:33:50,919 --> 01:33:49,850
hey were you given that you must have

2283
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:50,929
been Mac you must have given him that

2284
01:34:01,600 --> 01:33:52,400
name well there's a little story if you

2285
01:34:05,500 --> 01:34:01,610
want to hear it no no no I do we we had

2286
01:34:07,419 --> 01:34:05,510
to we wanted to give you most people on

2287
01:34:10,620 --> 01:34:07,429
the show don't use their real names okay

2288
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:10,630
for reasons that might be a parent so

2289
01:34:15,970 --> 01:34:13,010
switch became a correspondent so we

2290
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:15,980
started calling him stiletto Steve and

2291
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:18,410
of course in our part of the world I

2292
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:20,480
remember this stiletto you know me as a

2293
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:22,850
jackknife or something that you stick

2294
01:34:27,550 --> 01:34:24,650
someone with in his part of the world

2295
01:34:30,430 --> 01:34:27,560
that meant stiletto high heels and he

2296
01:34:33,370 --> 01:34:30,440
didn't want to be associate with that go

2297
01:34:34,630 --> 01:34:33,380
ahead Steve introduced me he would live

2298
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:34,640
near Battle Creek so he would make a

2299
01:34:38,530 --> 01:34:37,010
joke about cornflakes for Tony the Tiger

2300
01:34:40,330 --> 01:34:38,540
so finally one day I said Mac you know

2301
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:40,340
people are probably envisioning some guy

2302
01:34:49,419 --> 01:34:42,890
wearing a Tony the Tiger t-shirt with

2303
01:34:52,260 --> 01:34:49,429
stiletto high heels Wow compassionate

2304
01:34:55,930 --> 01:34:52,270
man so he read of me which way oh wow

2305
01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:55,940
okay do you always read up people well

2306
01:34:59,709 --> 01:34:57,679
you know they told me not to do it in

2307
01:35:00,189 --> 01:34:59,719
school but I don't all right sorry about

2308
01:35:02,950 --> 01:35:00,199
that

2309
01:35:04,270 --> 01:35:02,960
all right so we have a caller name I bet

2310
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:04,280
I know who it is Bobby from North

2311
01:35:09,729 --> 01:35:06,410
Carolina you're on the line okay Bobby

2312
01:35:10,810 --> 01:35:09,739
yeah Bobby is one how you doing yeah

2313
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:10,820
good Merry Christmas

2314
01:35:14,860 --> 01:35:12,560
same to you merry Christmas to you this

2315
01:35:22,029 --> 01:35:14,870
is Mac one wanna see a little black eyed

2316
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:24,279
are you are you calling from a tin can

2317
01:35:28,299 --> 01:35:26,089
or something what what is the deal who

2318
01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:28,309
is telling I'm gonna I'm gonna briefly

2319
01:35:34,509 --> 01:35:32,239
at a manufacturing plant okay no it's

2320
01:35:37,289 --> 01:35:34,519
it's cracking up just like you always

2321
01:35:40,209 --> 01:35:37,299
make me crack up Barbie ho ho yeah

2322
01:35:42,909 --> 01:35:40,219
material okay yes it's been that kind of

2323
01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:42,919
a show talking about the corn incident

2324
01:35:48,069 --> 01:35:46,249
would he Mac didn't mention is the the

2325
01:35:50,289 --> 01:35:48,079
UFO was actually above the helicopter

2326
01:35:51,609 --> 01:35:50,299
yes and was pulling it up yeah it is

2327
01:35:53,289 --> 01:35:51,619
flooding the helicopter with a green

2328
01:35:55,149 --> 01:35:53,299
light and they noticed that there

2329
01:35:57,129 --> 01:35:55,159
controls in the helicopter were set for

2330
01:35:59,229 --> 01:35:57,139
a descent but they still climbed up

2331
01:36:01,809 --> 01:35:59,239
several thousand feet and the idea is

2332
01:36:03,009 --> 01:36:01,819
people think that the UFO probably saved

2333
01:36:05,049 --> 01:36:03,019
the guys from crashing into the ground

2334
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:05,059
yes some yeah Bobby we're gonna have to

2335
01:36:08,469 --> 01:36:06,530
cut you short I'm sorry you have a bad

2336
01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:08,479
connection going on we're gonna we're

2337
01:36:13,509 --> 01:36:10,159
gonna get Bobby a book so Bobby's right

2338
01:36:15,759 --> 01:36:13,519
to me it I can passes away me in a mad

2339
01:36:17,829 --> 01:36:15,769
money doctors a regular a long time

2340
01:36:20,559 --> 01:36:17,839
listener thanks Bobby talk to you later

2341
01:36:22,929 --> 01:36:20,569
Bobby Merry Christmas

2342
01:36:24,669 --> 01:36:22,939
alright so we're out of books but it

2343
01:36:26,049 --> 01:36:24,679
doesn't mean that you can't call in them

2344
01:36:27,699 --> 01:36:26,059
if you can one more number we can learn

2345
01:36:29,529 --> 01:36:27,709
more number okay we can fix it yeah okay

2346
01:36:30,669 --> 01:36:29,539
what do you mean we can fix it we can

2347
01:36:32,529 --> 01:36:30,679
intend to do another book

2348
01:36:34,209 --> 01:36:32,539
oh we're gonna give away an additional

2349
01:36:36,009 --> 01:36:34,219
block position oh boy we're desperate

2350
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:36,019
for callers aren't we well we wouldn't

2351
01:36:41,859 --> 01:36:38,510
say that lines are jammed is what I mean

2352
01:36:43,059 --> 01:36:41,869
yeah they are right right alright so

2353
01:36:45,489 --> 01:36:43,069
where were we

2354
01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:45,499
we were talking Oh Oh switch blades on

2355
01:36:49,379 --> 01:36:47,209
on switch okay switch is on the line but

2356
01:36:52,509 --> 01:36:49,389
we have Kim I think from Alberta Oh

2357
01:36:53,859 --> 01:36:52,519
California Canada okay

2358
01:36:57,309 --> 01:36:53,869
Kim is this the Kim that called in

2359
01:36:59,409 --> 01:36:57,319
earlier yeah oh good okay well we

2360
01:37:02,199 --> 01:36:59,419
already have a book slated for you but

2361
01:37:11,649 --> 01:37:02,209
but anyway you never got to ask a

2362
01:37:13,509 --> 01:37:11,659
question so feel free to ask you know I

2363
01:37:15,250 --> 01:37:13,519
had up what eight questions to that

2364
01:37:17,379 --> 01:37:15,260
Cobra didn't make it ask number yeah

2365
01:37:19,689 --> 01:37:17,389
yeah I know it's our fault he had no

2366
01:37:21,309 --> 01:37:19,699
Cobra fans out there that yeah getting a

2367
01:37:27,879 --> 01:37:21,319
little out of control you know all the

2368
01:37:30,609 --> 01:37:27,889
street cred that guy I sent him a query

2369
01:37:33,259 --> 01:37:30,619
about a an f-16 incident that happened

2370
01:37:35,239 --> 01:37:33,269
Alberta back in the late seventies

2371
01:37:37,250 --> 01:37:35,249
and it broke a bunch of windows in our

2372
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:37,260
city on the East Side and it crashed

2373
01:37:43,549 --> 01:37:41,130
about 300 kilometres south and the guy

2374
01:37:46,489 --> 01:37:43,559
ejected and they recovered the plane in

2375
01:37:47,569 --> 01:37:46,499
a very quick pursuit because the friend

2376
01:37:50,359 --> 01:37:47,579
of mine was working in the forestry

2377
01:37:51,950 --> 01:37:50,369
industry up near Bragg Creek know any

2378
01:37:54,739 --> 01:37:51,960
Canadians that might be catching this

2379
01:37:56,569 --> 01:37:54,749
maybe you remember because the story was

2380
01:37:58,549 --> 01:37:56,579
odd that they collected the plane up

2381
01:38:01,250 --> 01:37:58,559
nothing was really said much about it

2382
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:01,260
except that my friend who was working in

2383
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:03,650
the location of the downed aircraft

2384
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:06,570
noticed that the u.s. had come in with

2385
01:38:11,029 --> 01:38:09,090
all kinds of trucks and equipment and I

2386
01:38:14,989 --> 01:38:11,039
mean we're talking fast order I mean the

2387
01:38:16,549 --> 01:38:14,999
border from Calgary to the u.s. even to

2388
01:38:19,339 --> 01:38:16,559
hit the first base would probably be a

2389
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:19,349
at least a four to five hour drive but

2390
01:38:23,509 --> 01:38:21,690
somehow these guys that got on the scene

2391
01:38:26,029 --> 01:38:23,519
very quickly and recovered this aircraft

2392
01:38:29,209 --> 01:38:26,039
and we believed it was nuked at the time

2393
01:38:31,580 --> 01:38:29,219
but the story went mute nothing was ever

2394
01:38:32,989 --> 01:38:31,590
said about it so I kind of query Cobra

2395
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:32,999
about it it was one of my little

2396
01:38:35,540 --> 01:38:34,530
questions I have a little million of

2397
01:38:39,259 --> 01:38:35,550
them What did he say

2398
01:38:41,989 --> 01:38:39,269
used him well Miami was a turducken I

2399
01:38:43,729 --> 01:38:41,999
was trying to get some more into myself

2400
01:38:46,189 --> 01:38:43,739
just so I could give him some kind of a

2401
01:38:47,540 --> 01:38:46,199
lead too but since it was the u.s. well

2402
01:38:48,859 --> 01:38:47,550
I'll leave it with him I know that he

2403
01:38:51,229 --> 01:38:48,869
was in the military probably in the

2404
01:38:53,629 --> 01:38:51,239
early 80s or middle 80s mm-hmm

2405
01:38:54,410 --> 01:38:53,639
one of my friends flew cf-18s out of

2406
01:38:58,549 --> 01:38:54,420
Canada

2407
01:38:59,959 --> 01:38:58,559
yeah not after this event so it was kind

2408
01:39:02,600 --> 01:38:59,969
of just like I say one of those things

2409
01:39:05,859 --> 01:39:02,610
that seemed to just kind of pass

2410
01:39:07,759 --> 01:39:05,869
everybody by we kept it all kind of like

2411
01:39:09,259 --> 01:39:07,769
that's what we were talking we've been

2412
01:39:10,879 --> 01:39:09,269
talked about all night is you know why

2413
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:10,889
don't stories like this that have some

2414
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:12,090
kind of a mystery to them you have

2415
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:13,800
always choice but you know why don't

2416
01:39:18,830 --> 01:39:16,530
they last longer people love to see UFO

2417
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:18,840
movies like out of the top 20 movies we

2418
01:39:23,839 --> 01:39:22,170
did a show a month ago on top 20 alien

2419
01:39:25,580 --> 01:39:23,849
invasion movies that like the top 20

2420
01:39:28,339 --> 01:39:25,590
movies in the US or the past 30 years

2421
01:39:29,779 --> 01:39:28,349
people love this stuff and why it just

2422
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:29,789
doesn't stick with them when it's

2423
01:39:33,470 --> 01:39:31,199
reported on the news or whether the

2424
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:33,480
media just you know as you said might

2425
01:39:37,580 --> 01:39:35,489
quickly go on to other things you know

2426
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:37,590
we don't know but it really is that's

2427
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:43,530
just another mystery in all of this not

2428
01:39:49,700 --> 01:39:46,560
even touched I was going to talk to you

2429
01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:49,710
about the Dolce and Mexicano or New

2430
01:39:55,700 --> 01:39:52,320
Mexico incident don't say I'm mostly mom

2431
01:39:57,230 --> 01:39:55,710
yeah a Dulce no you know um that I just

2432
01:39:58,730 --> 01:39:57,240
wanted to say something though I wanted

2433
01:40:04,010 --> 01:39:58,740
to link these two stories together the

2434
01:40:05,390 --> 01:40:04,020
one in San Louie the valley mr. Greer

2435
01:40:06,740 --> 01:40:05,400
this is where I wanted to covert out I

2436
01:40:10,430 --> 01:40:06,750
wanted to ask him this question you can

2437
01:40:12,890 --> 01:40:10,440
guys can even ask him this one but there

2438
01:40:14,420 --> 01:40:12,900
was a story of the San Luis Valley where

2439
01:40:15,710 --> 01:40:14,430
they were doing tunneling and they were

2440
01:40:17,930 --> 01:40:15,720
having a war up there one of the

2441
01:40:21,170 --> 01:40:17,940
mountains and a bunch of the guys got

2442
01:40:22,940 --> 01:40:21,180
trapped and militia guys hmm

2443
01:40:26,090 --> 01:40:22,950
there was a gentleman who was flying

2444
01:40:28,940 --> 01:40:26,100
what appeared to be a gust style maybe a

2445
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:28,950
Huey 500 up and down the Hydra lines to

2446
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:31,110
check them out right he witnessed

2447
01:40:36,980 --> 01:40:33,090
something going on he flew back into

2448
01:40:38,900 --> 01:40:36,990
town to refuel got contacted by the base

2449
01:40:40,940 --> 01:40:38,910
there who said oh no you got to come

2450
01:40:42,350 --> 01:40:40,950
with us and help us out now there's

2451
01:40:44,300 --> 01:40:42,360
where the story goes Hayworth you know I

2452
01:40:46,700 --> 01:40:44,310
I've been around for a long time I got

2453
01:40:49,220 --> 01:40:46,710
people in military and all kinds of

2454
01:40:52,910 --> 01:40:49,230
different areas of talking of aviation

2455
01:40:55,210 --> 01:40:52,920
but to have the military who is up to

2456
01:40:57,890 --> 01:40:55,220
the ying-yang with aircraft and

2457
01:41:00,260 --> 01:40:57,900
helicopters to ask some guy that was

2458
01:41:02,420 --> 01:41:00,270
checking hydro lines to go up to the top

2459
01:41:05,870 --> 01:41:02,430
of this mountain and rescue a few of

2460
01:41:07,940 --> 01:41:05,880
these guys tied to their his he'll be

2461
01:41:10,220 --> 01:41:07,950
500 like the whole story just goes

2462
01:41:12,140 --> 01:41:10,230
haywire but dr. Greer tells it like it's

2463
01:41:13,940 --> 01:41:12,150
like happening and I just I was just

2464
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:13,950
hoping that you maybe give some input on

2465
01:41:17,540 --> 01:41:16,410
it well we felt about that story you

2466
01:41:19,130 --> 01:41:17,550
know that's the first time I've heard

2467
01:41:20,510 --> 01:41:19,140
that story but the story is a lot of

2468
01:41:22,220 --> 01:41:20,520
strange things happen in the same Louie

2469
01:41:23,450 --> 01:41:22,230
Valley it's in the southwest corner of

2470
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,460
Colorado yeah

2471
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:25,440
with the Dulce mountain I mean once

2472
01:41:28,970 --> 01:41:26,730
again I don't want to plug another one

2473
01:41:31,340 --> 01:41:28,980
of my blogs but you're on Deary I got

2474
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:31,350
one we do a story on Dulce mountain and

2475
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:36,570
basically by not Martin Willis is show

2476
01:41:47,810 --> 01:41:39,810
and what do you I am that hurt one one

2477
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:47,820
words hurt Wow so anyway in that's right

2478
01:41:51,500 --> 01:41:49,010
there are awesome books

2479
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:51,510
they what happened was Kirtland Air

2480
01:41:55,130 --> 01:41:53,130
Force Base in New Mexico at the time you

2481
01:41:56,780 --> 01:41:55,140
know had a big storage

2482
01:41:58,760 --> 01:41:56,790
it was the live storage place for our

2483
01:42:01,310 --> 01:41:58,770
nuclear weapons they were also testing

2484
01:42:02,690 --> 01:42:01,320
the f-117 stealth fighter down there and

2485
01:42:05,540 --> 01:42:02,700
there was a gentleman who was a military

2486
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:05,550
contractor who you know had some kind of

2487
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:07,110
equipment and he was picking up strange

2488
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:09,360
signals and he went to the people at the

2489
01:42:14,420 --> 01:42:11,610
base and said listen you know I'm gay as

2490
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:14,430
odd signals from whatever these storage

2491
01:42:19,130 --> 01:42:16,320
facilities are and also something flying

2492
01:42:21,890 --> 01:42:19,140
around it's right exactly he thinks that

2493
01:42:24,110 --> 01:42:21,900
UFOs he went up and he tried to be a

2494
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:24,120
good guy and it turns out that they were

2495
01:42:26,900 --> 01:42:25,440
testing the stealth fighter which they

2496
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,910
couldn't tell anyone and they had on

2497
01:42:30,290 --> 01:42:28,320
nucleo a lot of nuclear weapons and

2498
01:42:32,990 --> 01:42:30,300
stores there so these two guys who are

2499
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:33,000
in the Air Force intelligence they have

2500
01:42:37,580 --> 01:42:34,650
some kind of name but they're really

2501
01:42:40,700 --> 01:42:37,590
just glorified gods at the station at

2502
01:42:43,250 --> 01:42:40,710
the base and they just gave him this you

2503
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:43,260
know cock-and-bull story any any and he

2504
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:44,730
believed that he was just one of these

2505
01:42:49,940 --> 01:42:46,890
guys who once again was passionate about

2506
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:49,950
it and and they kept feeding him these

2507
01:42:56,030 --> 01:42:53,130
yes disinformation stories about 50,000

2508
01:42:59,360 --> 01:42:56,040
you know aliens and he alive and no no

2509
01:43:01,190 --> 01:42:59,370
he died but before he died even the

2510
01:43:04,490 --> 01:43:01,200
pranksters who were you know at some

2511
01:43:05,900 --> 01:43:04,500
point chastised by the Air Force told

2512
01:43:07,370 --> 01:43:05,910
them that he made it up but he wouldn't

2513
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:07,380
believe it he was in and out of mental

2514
01:43:10,610 --> 01:43:08,790
institutions and everything and they

2515
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:10,620
really kind of drove this guy crazy and

2516
01:43:19,790 --> 01:43:17,850
crazy and drove him to his grave so what

2517
01:43:21,410 --> 01:43:19,800
we have Bob's doing okay by himself but

2518
01:43:23,570 --> 01:43:21,420
anyway that whole story about bouncy

2519
01:43:25,730 --> 01:43:23,580
mountain it's just not true it's it's

2520
01:43:28,010 --> 01:43:25,740
literally a disinformation story by two

2521
01:43:30,230 --> 01:43:28,020
amateurs and they destroyed this guy

2522
01:43:32,060 --> 01:43:30,240
Paul bennewitz Thank You Mack okay thank

2523
01:43:34,700 --> 01:43:32,070
you thanks for calling thanks a lot

2524
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:34,710
thanks Kim very good Merry Christmas all

2525
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,170
right happy holidays yeah Chris slam

2526
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:39,840
brights a friend word and touch quite

2527
01:43:45,230 --> 01:43:42,960
often and he wrote the book on Paul

2528
01:43:47,930 --> 01:43:45,240
bennewitz it's unreal it's a real sad

2529
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:47,940
yes sad story it sure is but Richard

2530
01:43:54,410 --> 01:43:52,170
Doty out there you know he was feeding

2531
01:43:56,750 --> 01:43:54,420
him this disinformation rhyme and

2532
01:43:58,610 --> 01:43:56,760
there's a story about a computer at the

2533
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:58,620
time it would be an early computer yeah

2534
01:44:01,580 --> 01:44:00,480
and they went through it they broke into

2535
01:44:04,460 --> 01:44:01,590
his house and went through his computer

2536
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:04,470
yeah there's there's a lot going on with

2537
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:07,440
that and then we don't know exactly how

2538
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:08,880
he passed away but

2539
01:44:13,129 --> 01:44:11,850
wasn't good it was natural causes well

2540
01:44:16,490 --> 01:44:13,139
it might have been but he was in and out

2541
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:16,500
of mental institutions you know and in I

2542
01:44:21,050 --> 01:44:19,050
mean all right in a way you know I mean

2543
01:44:23,689 --> 01:44:21,060
what they were it was done by amateurs

2544
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:23,699
from one thing and you know they were

2545
01:44:26,689 --> 01:44:25,530
trying to protect the fact that they

2546
01:44:28,340 --> 01:44:26,699
were we were flying the stealth fighter

2547
01:44:30,590 --> 01:44:28,350
out there which was highly secret then

2548
01:44:32,570 --> 01:44:30,600
and as I said a lot of nukes and storage

2549
01:44:33,919 --> 01:44:32,580
there and they were trying to distract

2550
01:44:35,930 --> 01:44:33,929
him from that but the thing is is that

2551
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:35,940
the guy was a military contractor and

2552
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:38,370
with a lot of these military contractors

2553
01:44:41,959 --> 01:44:40,320
who see stuff they have you sign you

2554
01:44:44,780 --> 01:44:41,969
know of what we're talking about earlier

2555
01:44:46,700 --> 01:44:44,790
you know it's a non-disclosure agreement

2556
01:44:48,590 --> 01:44:46,710
I guess you know and in people doing

2557
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:48,600
basically what it is is if you say

2558
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:49,770
anything you'll never get any business

2559
01:44:53,450 --> 01:44:52,050
from us so you know they keep quiet

2560
01:44:55,700 --> 01:44:53,460
about it and I can understand that but

2561
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:55,710
why these guys picked on this guy it is

2562
01:45:03,800 --> 01:44:57,570
it's like one of the saddest stories in

2563
01:45:07,820 --> 01:45:03,810
UFO ecology of ufology yeah yeah yeah

2564
01:45:10,490 --> 01:45:07,830
it's it's it's sad and it's it's also a

2565
01:45:12,919 --> 01:45:10,500
mystery with what material that the

2566
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:12,929
family still has that he had because he

2567
01:45:16,610 --> 01:45:15,210
did a lot of filming yeah he took some

2568
01:45:17,540 --> 01:45:16,620
great pictures and it was most likely

2569
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:17,550
military

2570
01:45:22,399 --> 01:45:20,850
know the guy was a real Patriot I hate

2571
01:45:24,229 --> 01:45:22,409
to use that word these days but he

2572
01:45:26,419 --> 01:45:24,239
really was he was trying to help out and

2573
01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:26,429
this is what they did to him you know so

2574
01:45:30,649 --> 01:45:28,710
but Dulcie mountain don't believe it

2575
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:30,659
it's just it's a mountain out in the

2576
01:45:35,209 --> 01:45:32,370
desert and there nothing to it you know

2577
01:45:36,770 --> 01:45:35,219
I gotta say though people have a lot of

2578
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:36,780
people who have been around there say

2579
01:45:40,490 --> 01:45:38,850
there are some weird things happening in

2580
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:40,500
the area but that's also because as part

2581
01:45:44,060 --> 01:45:42,570
of the San Luis Valley like and it's

2582
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:44,070
near Kirkland Air Force Base and I'll

2583
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,600
tell you this is a secret place because

2584
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:48,000
when we were doing beyond area 51 as it

2585
01:45:51,979 --> 01:45:50,159
turns out hop emember hop up in Alaska

2586
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:51,989
was right that was like they like

2587
01:45:56,300 --> 01:45:54,449
sending tons and millions of volts of

2588
01:45:59,090 --> 01:45:56,310
electricity up into the Earth's

2589
01:46:00,740 --> 01:45:59,100
atmosphere that was run by Kirkland Air

2590
01:46:03,290 --> 01:46:00,750
Force Base if you live down in New

2591
01:46:04,430 --> 01:46:03,300
Mexico and I asked them for a picture of

2592
01:46:05,959 --> 01:46:04,440
hop and they wouldn't give it to me and

2593
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:05,969
then I asked them for a picture just a

2594
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,920
picture of you know their front gate

2595
01:46:12,229 --> 01:46:09,360
that would say Kirkland Air Force Base

2596
01:46:13,970 --> 01:46:12,239
they said no it's classified so you know

2597
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:13,980
they're really secret down Wow

2598
01:46:18,229 --> 01:46:15,810
yeah and we talked we were talking about

2599
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:18,239
you know Paul bennewitz in general and

2600
01:46:22,959 --> 01:46:21,600
one of the the things about that Richard

2601
01:46:26,110 --> 01:46:22,969
Doty has out

2602
01:46:28,090 --> 01:46:26,120
now he's starting to talk he has been

2603
01:46:30,580 --> 01:46:28,100
the last couple of years and he's also

2604
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:30,590
talking about aliens I mean what is

2605
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:33,650
really bizarre making them buck I guess

2606
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:37,130
that's what it's about but who isn't you

2607
01:46:41,380 --> 01:46:39,290
know someone suggested I have him on my

2608
01:46:42,970 --> 01:46:41,390
show I just have never really given that

2609
01:46:45,070 --> 01:46:42,980
a lot of thought and maybe it would make

2610
01:46:47,050 --> 01:46:45,080
for an interesting show I'd certainly 7

2611
01:46:48,459 --> 01:46:47,060
the next simulcast yeah there is if he

2612
01:46:50,590 --> 01:46:48,469
can make it through these two hours

2613
01:46:53,310 --> 01:46:50,600
that's right what do you think kid

2614
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:53,320
should we have mana one let's roast him

2615
01:46:58,979 --> 01:46:56,719
well means that literally folks we're

2616
01:47:02,439 --> 01:46:58,989
gonna have a black-eyed kid as the

2617
01:47:03,670 --> 01:47:02,449
manager of guest relations now I'll tea

2618
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:03,680
I'm never gonna look at Santa Claus

2619
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:05,570
again the same way after they get me out

2620
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:08,000
now yeah I'm pretty freaked out so we

2621
01:47:12,189 --> 01:47:10,130
still have that number available that

2622
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:12,199
line is still open if anyone would like

2623
01:47:18,459 --> 01:47:14,690
to call in and join us that's 603 five

2624
01:47:19,030 --> 01:47:18,469
eight three four seven six seven give us

2625
01:47:22,990 --> 01:47:19,040
a call

2626
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:23,000
Steve a switch still there I forgot all

2627
01:47:27,220 --> 01:47:24,770
about him I have to ask him this I asked

2628
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:27,230
him every day every show for breakfast

2629
01:47:42,970 --> 01:47:41,330
today just long as you can reach us on

2630
01:47:44,770 --> 01:47:42,980
the phone that we find but he lives up

2631
01:47:47,380 --> 01:47:44,780
in Battle Creek and he can smell you

2632
01:47:50,020 --> 01:47:47,390
know the place being made every day yes

2633
01:47:51,670 --> 01:47:50,030
is that right yep true story and that

2634
01:47:52,959 --> 01:47:51,680
true this between please I've actually

2635
01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:52,969
live a little bit east of there but I

2636
01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:54,560
can just barely hear the snap crackle

2637
01:48:00,220 --> 01:47:58,610
pop Wow as it turns out switches the man

2638
01:48:01,689 --> 01:48:00,230
on the way up he's been you know since I

2639
01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:01,699
show or maybe it's a coincidence one

2640
01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:03,710
when we don't know but he's been asked

2641
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:05,600
to give a lot of speeches and make a lot

2642
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:07,250
of appearances and sing this snap

2643
01:48:17,770 --> 01:48:12,560
crackle and he doesn't return our phone

2644
01:48:20,020 --> 01:48:17,780
calls well you know no one in the limo

2645
01:48:25,420 --> 01:48:20,030
he frosted mini-wheats is might go to

2646
01:48:27,670 --> 01:48:25,430
cereal for snacking yes I would say that

2647
01:48:29,229 --> 01:48:27,680
I thought you know you were you the last

2648
01:48:30,580 --> 01:48:29,239
time we talked about cereal one line you

2649
01:48:32,620 --> 01:48:30,590
were making your own raisin bran

2650
01:48:34,270 --> 01:48:32,630
remember you would get like 10 pounds of

2651
01:48:35,740 --> 01:48:34,280
brand and ten pounds of raisins and mix

2652
01:48:36,379 --> 01:48:35,750
them because I was trying to eat healthy

2653
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:36,389
you know

2654
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:38,130
not working out for me well you look

2655
01:48:43,609 --> 01:48:39,530
good what do you mean what do you so you

2656
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:43,619
it's just not satisfy sure I'm eating

2657
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:46,800
oatmeal too and my dietician says you

2658
01:48:51,259 --> 01:48:49,530
can put maple syrup on it but stay away

2659
01:48:54,919 --> 01:48:51,269
from I'll talk about putting sugar on

2660
01:48:57,500 --> 01:48:54,929
top of sugar maple syrup maple syrup we

2661
01:49:00,439 --> 01:48:57,510
desperately need a call I can't talk

2662
01:49:02,239 --> 01:49:00,449
about diet oh no anyway that number a

2663
01:49:04,669 --> 01:49:02,249
lot of customers I'm an IT guy they're

2664
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:04,679
just about 50% of them have had some

2665
01:49:15,379 --> 01:49:13,879
think I don't count as a paranormal I

2666
01:49:16,850 --> 01:49:15,389
don't let your customers know assister

2667
01:49:20,020 --> 01:49:16,860
we're gonna be transparent I know a lot

2668
01:49:22,549 --> 01:49:20,030
of your customers that's a lonely one

2669
01:49:26,859 --> 01:49:22,559
one is a woman and one of the nearby

2670
01:49:29,870 --> 01:49:26,869
towns angry okay I would like to ask

2671
01:49:32,270 --> 01:49:29,880
Switchblade in your area that you live

2672
01:49:36,549 --> 01:49:32,280
in Battle Creek are there any known UFO

2673
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:36,559
incidents that you can talk about I

2674
01:49:41,449 --> 01:49:39,599
would go back to I I grew up in in

2675
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:41,459
Michigan near the Detroit area and of

2676
01:49:48,069 --> 01:49:43,679
course the swamp gas sightings go back

2677
01:49:51,409 --> 01:49:48,079
to March of 1967 those I mean yeah just

2678
01:49:54,139 --> 01:49:51,419
flap is that is that the only is that

2679
01:49:55,969 --> 01:49:54,149
all you got party do the show no there's

2680
01:49:58,399 --> 01:49:55,979
all kinds there's always been sightings

2681
01:50:00,439 --> 01:49:58,409
around Michigan so nice I don't know why

2682
01:50:01,790 --> 01:50:00,449
do the thumbnail version of the swamp

2683
01:50:04,069 --> 01:50:01,800
gas because that's a really that's an

2684
01:50:06,169 --> 01:50:04,079
important story because it's the first

2685
01:50:07,850 --> 01:50:06,179
time they use the swamp gas excuse you

2686
01:50:09,949 --> 01:50:07,860
know right yeah just the thumbnail

2687
01:50:11,419 --> 01:50:09,959
version play Allen Hynek and also there

2688
01:50:13,699 --> 01:50:11,429
were some very a lot of very credible

2689
01:50:15,649 --> 01:50:13,709
sightings for my police officers and so

2690
01:50:17,569 --> 01:50:15,659
forth okay just don't get just to let

2691
01:50:18,819 --> 01:50:17,579
you know we have five minutes tell us in

2692
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:18,829
a minute

2693
01:50:23,929 --> 01:50:21,209
okay also this is this is a real hot

2694
01:50:26,750 --> 01:50:23,939
spot I mean the Michigan Dogman has been

2695
01:50:29,629 --> 01:50:26,760
seen in this area Kalamazoo Battle Creek

2696
01:50:31,489 --> 01:50:29,639
and so forth yeah it's it's Michigan's

2697
01:50:34,219 --> 01:50:31,499
always been a really hot spot for for

2698
01:50:37,429 --> 01:50:34,229
hauntings for for UFOs Bigfoot

2699
01:50:39,229 --> 01:50:37,439
everything well oh it's but but with

2700
01:50:40,549 --> 01:50:39,239
these swamp gas you know the swamp gas

2701
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:40,559
incident can you tell us in a minute

2702
01:50:47,959 --> 01:50:44,610
what happened well yes it was it was a

2703
01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:47,969
huge flap in March of 1966 Ann Arbor

2704
01:50:52,290 --> 01:50:49,420
Dexter Hills

2705
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,300
and docked back then dr. J Allen Hynek

2706
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:54,400
was still attached a project Bluebook so

2707
01:50:57,570 --> 01:50:55,690
he was kind of in a debunking role

2708
01:50:59,820 --> 01:50:57,580
although later on he separated from that

2709
01:51:01,980 --> 01:50:59,830
became one of the good guys and started

2710
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:01,990
the Center for UFO studies but he he

2711
01:51:06,210 --> 01:51:03,970
thought that some of the sightings some

2712
01:51:09,150 --> 01:51:06,220
of them in Hillsdale might have been due

2713
01:51:11,790 --> 01:51:09,160
to swamp gas you know the the gases that

2714
01:51:13,620 --> 01:51:11,800
form in swamps and so forth and that the

2715
01:51:15,810 --> 01:51:13,630
press jumped on it and that was the

2716
01:51:17,670 --> 01:51:15,820
explanation for everything it was

2717
01:51:20,370 --> 01:51:17,680
interesting because I saw him speak ten

2718
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:20,380
years later in Ann Arbor at the 1976

2719
01:51:24,780 --> 01:51:22,960
MUFON symposium and he had was kind of

2720
01:51:26,970 --> 01:51:24,790
doing a retrospective on and everything

2721
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:26,980
that happened then well he's you know

2722
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:28,810
he's the one that wrote the book that

2723
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:31,090
did set off the close encounter

2724
01:51:35,490 --> 01:51:33,070
category's Close Encounters of the Third

2725
01:51:37,260 --> 01:51:35,500
Kind and so forth we talk about a Steven

2726
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:37,270
Spielberg on the show a lot yeah some

2727
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,010
reason cuz one was him and I think that

2728
01:51:44,460 --> 01:51:41,440
yeah he's a popular director but not

2729
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:44,470
like a great director but he should do

2730
01:51:50,190 --> 01:51:46,570
the the Hynek story he'd be the perfect

2731
01:51:51,690 --> 01:51:50,200
guy to do it because yeah he was as

2732
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:51,700
which said he was with the Air Force he

2733
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:53,650
was the debunk of literally a scientist

2734
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:56,290
you know to debunk me and then he

2735
01:51:59,850 --> 01:51:57,970
changed he saw the evidence and he

2736
01:52:01,590 --> 01:51:59,860
changed you know and some people say it

2737
01:52:03,180 --> 01:52:01,600
was Socorro was a tipping point yeah

2738
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:03,190
there was a yeah yeah he was an

2739
01:52:08,010 --> 01:52:05,410
interesting guy yeah and now the project

2740
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:08,020
Bluebook on the History Channel is

2741
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:10,570
coming out on January oh Willy yeah

2742
01:52:13,860 --> 01:52:12,130
that'll be good yeah yeah that's good

2743
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:13,870
there's a little bit of artistic license

2744
01:52:20,370 --> 01:52:16,960
with that but it should be fine that

2745
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:20,380
means they're gonna ruin it why yes you

2746
01:52:25,610 --> 01:52:23,050
know it's embellished CY embellish it

2747
01:52:28,380 --> 01:52:25,620
you know because it's it's well as it is

2748
01:52:30,150 --> 01:52:28,390
it is but you have to hold an audience

2749
01:52:31,860 --> 01:52:30,160
attention well then you don't want that

2750
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:31,870
audience that you have to hold if you

2751
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:33,970
just go out there and I sort of agree on

2752
01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:35,920
the truth but no no they don't they

2753
01:52:39,450 --> 01:52:37,510
don't they don't go completely against

2754
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:39,460
things they just embellish it there's no

2755
01:52:44,910 --> 01:52:42,930
need for ontology okay sorry about that

2756
01:52:46,380 --> 01:52:44,920
maybe we won't watch we have a show that

2757
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:46,390
night I mean oh you have to watch it

2758
01:52:54,270 --> 01:52:50,890
yeah I'll DVR it all right so we still

2759
01:52:56,670 --> 01:52:54,280
have about three minutes left and we're

2760
01:52:59,700 --> 01:52:56,680
not taking any more calls but I just

2761
01:53:01,620 --> 01:52:59,710
wanted to ask you guys do you have any

2762
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:01,630
new year's resolution that you

2763
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:06,370
to talk about when it comes to UFOs no

2764
01:53:13,050 --> 01:53:09,610
when it comes to UFOs I was just trying

2765
01:53:14,729 --> 01:53:13,060
to stay on topic oh yeah I got my

2766
01:53:18,689 --> 01:53:14,739
resolution would be if I don't see a UFO

2767
01:53:23,490 --> 01:53:18,699
between now and say January 31st then

2768
01:53:27,330 --> 01:53:23,500
we'll just make one up oh wow Wow I say

2769
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:27,340
tonight yeah I have such great vantage

2770
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:29,590
points I live in a hill that's 900 feet

2771
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:31,449
elevation and this is other hill near me

2772
01:53:35,070 --> 01:53:33,010
that's even higher you look right over

2773
01:53:36,510 --> 01:53:35,080
Lake Winnipesaukee yeah I don't think

2774
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:36,520
you see them when you're looking I just

2775
01:53:39,300 --> 01:53:38,050
don't see them when you look that can

2776
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:39,310
I've had these conversations if you're

2777
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:42,400
if you're deliberately trying to look

2778
01:53:47,580 --> 01:53:44,290
let's see I got my binoculars and

2779
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:47,590
everything and nothing happens no

2780
01:53:53,070 --> 01:53:50,110
streaks no movement

2781
01:53:54,689 --> 01:53:53,080
yeah thing it's just one of those

2782
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:54,699
situations we driving down the highway

2783
01:53:58,350 --> 01:53:56,560
it's just that up in the way down

2784
01:54:00,300 --> 01:53:58,360
something off said boom yeah something's

2785
01:54:02,850 --> 01:54:00,310
gonna happen yeah and that's that's what

2786
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:02,860
I 1 for the sighting I had just happened

2787
01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:05,290
to happen you know I'm yeah yeah it's

2788
01:54:08,450 --> 01:54:06,639
just you're just the right place right

2789
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:08,460
time you know you know I'm actually

2790
01:54:13,229 --> 01:54:10,960
looking for an abduction I want to be

2791
01:54:15,780 --> 01:54:13,239
inducted yeah we want you to be abducted

2792
01:54:17,970 --> 01:54:15,790
sued and may know what he wants he said

2793
01:54:20,250 --> 01:54:17,980
my wife thought I already been abducted

2794
01:54:20,910 --> 01:54:20,260
and then was dropped off and that was a

2795
01:54:22,530 --> 01:54:20,920
changed man

2796
01:54:24,209 --> 01:54:22,540
okay I used to watch your foot do we

2797
01:54:25,770 --> 01:54:24,219
know that's not true well yeah you know

2798
01:54:27,060 --> 01:54:25,780
I used to watch football every Sunday

2799
01:54:31,530 --> 01:54:27,070
night and then I'm watching Downton

2800
01:54:33,530 --> 01:54:31,540
Abbey okay kids what happened if someone

2801
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:33,540
happened they call the midwives you know

2802
01:54:40,770 --> 01:54:36,250
he was reprogrammed when I'm being tuned

2803
01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:40,780
up but not beam them down okay all right

2804
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:45,670
well we have one minute left so I'd like

2805
01:54:52,140 --> 01:54:49,690
to give this opportunity to you too Mac

2806
01:54:53,310 --> 01:54:52,150
oh yes you want to plug your bull show

2807
01:54:56,430 --> 01:54:53,320
more time and we're people you better

2808
01:54:58,919 --> 01:54:56,440
find it yeah on well any books are

2809
01:55:04,220 --> 01:54:58,929
really but the easiest place to get is

2810
01:55:07,050 --> 01:55:04,230
on amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com and

2811
01:55:08,430 --> 01:55:07,060
you know that's the easiest place yet

2812
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:08,440
but you can get at bookstores and also

2813
01:55:12,479 --> 01:55:09,760
these new book stores are open up where

2814
01:55:13,860 --> 01:55:12,489
your 3d print is and you and they'll

2815
01:55:15,209 --> 01:55:13,870
make the book right in front of you it's

2816
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:15,219
three minutes for a three

2817
01:55:19,950 --> 01:55:16,840
hundred page book yeah how about that

2818
01:55:22,469 --> 01:55:19,960
hey do not 3d printer well whatever they

2819
01:55:24,089 --> 01:55:22,479
call yeah yeah yeah but yeah but they

2820
01:55:25,469 --> 01:55:24,099
can just print them instantly for you

2821
01:55:27,450 --> 01:55:25,479
any book you want

2822
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:27,460
isn't that imagine wrong book yep Wow

2823
01:55:32,879 --> 01:55:29,920
the wave of the future anything we have

2824
01:55:34,140 --> 01:55:32,889
just 20 seconds left anything coming up

2825
01:55:37,049 --> 01:55:34,150
in Merry Christmas everybody

2826
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:37,059
yeah thanks for having us on Martin

2827
01:55:42,839 --> 01:55:39,610
putting up with us yeah any books coming

2828
01:55:44,850 --> 01:55:42,849
to the Future code names Tom in one is

2829
01:55:47,549 --> 01:55:44,860
coming out sometime in January is

2830
01:55:50,219 --> 01:55:47,559
exciting transvestite murder mystery and

2831
01:55:52,049 --> 01:55:50,229
also wing Mia 19 in July all right thank

2832
01:55:55,319 --> 01:55:52,059
you alright everyone so thanks so much

2833
01:55:57,569 --> 01:55:55,329
it's been a lot of fun and thank you for

2834
01:55:59,910 --> 01:55:57,579
all the callers and all the helpers here

2835
01:56:02,160 --> 01:55:59,920
and we want to say good night like that

2836
01:56:04,739 --> 01:56:02,170
like I don't be with the I didn't see

2837
01:56:10,500 --> 01:56:04,749
you alright thanks to black I did

2838
01:56:12,989 --> 01:56:10,510
everyone like a son to me Christmas

2839
01:56:15,330 --> 01:56:12,999
alright alright everyone so that's it

2840
01:56:18,439 --> 01:56:15,340
for the that's it for the show thanks to